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Ev Archive for December 1997
1191 messages, last added Wed Aug 08 18:41:16 2001

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Re: It's an RV, not an EV! (Was: Who's in Charge of EV Charging?)



You can charge on 220 Volts ac if you have that on your truck like
Solectria has.  This charging in next door neighbor buisness with
110 stuff if for the birds.  I had to get it from the editors mouth
John M. Caloggero one of three editors of the NEC.  You can charge
at 220 VAC IAW article 210,-6,(c),6. Cord and cap connected equip.
BTW John's number at the NFPA and NEC is area code 617-984-7426.
The 1999 code is already finalized.  But admendments can be modified
by May 1998, well maybe.  The guy in charge of NEC amendments is
David Brown on the infrastructure Power Council.  His number is FAX
410-265-4015 and his voice number is 410-265-4016.
     It is real nice to know I am not limited by 110 GFCI outdoor
electrical hook up only. I know now I am limited by my Electrical
Inspector on what the device is to be plugged in. As maybe my 220
Vac 5 Hp elecric Snow Thrower from DAK surplus!  Ground fault
circuit breakers are relatively cheap enough at $85.00 for a thirty
amp jobby and 95 for the fifty amp one at 220 volts.  It can be used
for 110 volts too with full GFCI protection also. Really I put the
220 volt outlet out side to use my Norelco shaver on it to get a
close shave in the cold and to use the range selector switch on that
setting once in a while.  But if you are in the area you can plug in
your Solectria or anyother conversion in to the 14-50 outlet.
     Every state modifies the NEC to fit their needs and I don't
have the CA state codes for anything to do with EVs.  Mass building
codes are strict enough and just as stupid on some things but I am
still going to cram some of those them thar joules in my T-145s.
And not at one electron per year either!
     So talk at or to John or David to do some real EV charging and
some real driving.  And be working with the NEC and not against it.
I don't like typing and like a little humor once in a while like
changing the summer air in ones tires to winter air or better yet
rotating the air in the tires, but I want some infrastructure set up
yesterday.  How do you do that?  By developing some what of a
standard of the millions of real citicars , S-10 converted Geo's and
Escorts with onboard chargers that are downward compatible. And I
believe most if not all can use a NEMA 14-50 recepacle for their
citicar or escort.  It will give you a  110 volt GFCI source and you
can use an adapter to give you the needed 5-15 plug to power it now.
The 14-50 still has hot neu hot and ground so it is safe, or as safe
as one can get now.  Maybe we can wait for the reincarnation of
Tesla to get electricity to power devices without wires like was his
dreams to begin with.  I believe we can do EVs safely enuff now if
we can just have a decent receptacle to have some sort of access to
right now.
     BTW John M. Caloggero, NFPA's Senior Electrical Field Service
Specialist, serves as a Staff Liaison to the technical Committees on
electircal equipment maintenance and lightning Protection code. He
has contributed to four editions of NEC handbook, and has developed
several NEC workshops.  Prior to joining the NFPA in 1980, he was
employed as a master electrician, elecrical inspector, and
electrical instructor. Mr. Caloggero is a member of IAEI, holds a
journeyman Electrician's license, and is a Nationally Certified
Electrical Inspector.
Written on this last day of the year of 1997 by me the one and only
D. Russell Graves, EV enthusiast.
Re: It's an RV, not an EV! (Was: Who's in Charge of EV Charging?)