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Ev Archive for December 1997
1191 messages, last added Wed Aug 08 18:41:16 2001

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Re: It's an RV, not an EV! (Was: Who's in Charge of EV Charging?)



It might have a lot to do with NEW and I mean NEW new stuff that is mass
produced.  But when you and I make some thing that is cord and cap, it
must be as in the NEC requirement.  Like your kitchen garbage disposal
unit can be cordedd  now and yes you can shave outside via 220 volts and
heat your cab with 220 volts, So it doesnt have to comply with 625 if the
designer - you designed it that way.  If I designed it to be a camper and
EV then I can go to the local wrecked reational camp grounds and fill up
with their outlet and most don't have the 220 volt GFCI and fill up.
But the code can NOT keep any small buisness from doing something safely.
 Ask John the editor of the National code.  I am getting slammed left and
right because everyone says they would love to help EVers with a standard
outlet but ..........
I don't want to hear it, just gimme some MASSIVE amperes now so I can get
home Jack !
If you use a big GFCI and a big four wire receptacle then change it for
that particular vehicl to a 6-50 or a 10-30 or even a 5-15 if you desire.
 And if you want to rip out your $5000.00 Hughes and put on a 14-50, so
be it.  I will do just that!!!!  Being that I have a s-10 I guess I can
do that for I have a Helliwig air suspension system and tires that are
rated for C rating, light weight pickup truck.  65 PSI LRR tires.
I can't go very fast only about 71 MPH but i sure can't go very far
either! So get people to put out 220 volt Nema 14-50 outlets that are
ground fault protected and use it for heater or shaving or even to charge
your EV.
-D. Russell Graves
http://www.concentric.net/~russ239

On Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:34:17 -0700 "Bill Dube'" <bdube@BOULDER.NIST.GOV>
writes:
>>You can charge on 220 Volts ac if you have that on your truck like
>>Solectria has.
>
>        What on your truck like Solectria has?
>
>This charging in next door neighbor buisness with
>>110 stuff if for the birds.  I had to get it from the editors mouth
>>John M. Caloggero one of three editors of the NEC.  You can charge
>>at 220 VAC IAW article 210,-6,(c),6. Cord and cap connected equip.
>>BTW John's number at the NFPA and NEC is area code 617-984-7426.
>>The 1999 code is already finalized.  But admendments can be modified
>>by May 1998, well maybe.  The guy in charge of NEC amendments is
>>David Brown on the infrastructure Power Council.  His number is FAX
>>410-265-4015 and his voice number is 410-265-4016.
>
>        Well, then Ford, Arenvironment (sp,) EPRI and others have got
>it all
>wrong.
>
>        Also, what other sections of the code say doesn't matter
>according
>the Article 625.
>
>        "625-3 Other Articles. Wherever the requirements of other
>articles
>of this
>code and Article 625 differ, the requirements of Article 625 shall
>apply."
>
>        That has a familiar ring, doesn't it?
>             _   /|
>             \'o.O'              Bill Dube'
>           =(___)=           bdube@boulder.nist.gov
>              U
>
>Re: It's an RV, not an EV! (Was: Who's in Charge of EV Charging?)
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Re: It's an RV, not an EV! (Was: Who's in Charge of EV Charging?)