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| Ev Archive for January 2001 |
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| 1553 messages, last added Wed Aug 08 18:50:49 2001 |
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RE: OT: wasteful computing,
FYI for those with the paper feed problem in this message, use sandpaper on
the rollers.
-Will
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Hertzog [mailto:scott_hertzog@MailAndNews.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 6:25 PM
To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu
Subject: RE: OT: wasteful computing,
OfficeMax (still?) sells the Xerox Docuprint P8 for $199, cartridges are
about $70, as I recall - I love it! Crisp, 600dpi, non-running, laser, and
my old HP inkjet (540) had to be manually fed one sheet at a time - yech!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ev@listproc.sjsu.edu [mailto:owner-ev@listproc.sjsu.edu]On
Behalf Of David Schwarze
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:03 AM
To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu
Subject: Re: OT: wastful computing,
I wasn't going to reply, but since this thread won't die...
At 4:25 PM -0600 1/27/01, Dennis Hawkins wrote:
>I checked out the HP web site. The cheapest I found was an HP 1100.
>$429. With a $30 mail in rebate, its $399. With store closeouts,
>etc, it would be possible to get it for less. All of the other HP
>lasers are $500 up.
I bought my Apple Personal Laserwriter new for $329 back around 1993. In
general I will concede that inkjets are cheaper, but there's a reason for
that.
>The lasers I have seen (not the HP1100) need about 1000 watts and
>several minutes to warm up.
Mine takes about 20 seconds to warm up. My Epson stylus often takes two
minutes to come out of whatever "sleep mode" it's in. Very disappointing.
>That is not exactly right. Thats only with a 5% ink coverage of the
>page. That works out to about 4.5 square inches of black per page.
>Its Specsmanship. What someone would really get is probably around
>1000 pages for real use.
How many solid black pages do you think an inkjet will print on one
cartridge? I'd bet 50. Let's compare apples to apples here. For typical
b&w printing (text), an inkjet will get about 500 pages to a $20 cartridge.
A laserwriter will typically get 5000-10000 pages per cartridge. You won't
find many people who will agree that an inkjet costs less per page to
print. I had an HP deskjet and went through several cartridges at about
500 pages per. My Apple laserwriter is still on the original cartridge and
I have put many, many reams of paper through it. I've also seen enough
laser printers at work print 10k per cartridge to know that it is no lie.
>I have used both lasers and inkjets. The only time I have ever seen
>"fuzzy" output on an inkjet is when I set my cold drink down on it
>after it was printed. The b&w output is identical in quality to a
>laser printer of the same resolution.
Sounds like you've fallen prey to the marketing tactics of the inkjet
makers. My seven-year-old 300dpi Apple Laserwriter produces visibly
superior text output to my 6 month old 720x1440dpi Epson 740i inkjet.
Higher resolution does not equal better printing!! To be fair, inkjets
have gotten much better. The quality of the old 300x600 HP deskjet was
disappointing, and was the reason I bought the laser in the first place
(also the cartridges kept clogging up on the Deskjet).
>In any case, even with the advanced HP-1100, it still draws much more
>power than an inkjet. It is also more expensive than a like-
>resolution inkjet.
Both true, but unimportant IMO. The amount of time a laser spends printing
is negligable, just don't leave it on 24/7. There is much more potential
for improvement in other appliances. As for price, do you always buy
what's cheapest, or do you go for quality? Depends on the situation and
the answer is different for everyone. I prefer the sharp output of a laser
printer for text and I picked up the 740i for color printing. I would not
print out my resume on an inkjet!
-David
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