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| Ev Archive for January 2001 |
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| 1553 messages, last added Wed Aug 08 18:50:48 2001 |
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Battery buffers (again)
"Eric Chang" <ericchang@my-deja.com> wrote:
"Obviously, there is a long way to go. The most range improvement
possible is 120%. The EV1 does not attain this because it is very
inefficient when the motor is turning at slow speeds.
The only important losses that relate to speed are the ones that are
produced at no load. The fan, windage and bearing losses are basically
the power required to rotate the motor with a 6, 8 12 or 24 V battery
at a measured speed and Amperage. When you load down the shaft,
resistive, inductive and eddy current-magnetic losses come into play.
At zero rpm, any Amps put into the motor do no work and produce only
heat. Of course, you don't stay there long. As the rpm increases,
efficiency improves because more work / kW is being done (even though
mechanical loss is increasing).
Repeatedly, I hear that bigger motors are more efficient, but they are
run at lower than the load required for their best efficiency.
"The silicon transmission just does not match an ordinary mechanical one."
Here, you're alluding that the inverter is the transmission analog. I
rather believe that it is the carburator analog while the motor is the
transmission analog. Not worth fighting about here. In any case, the
inverter - controller isn't the point of losses, the motor is.
"One EV club member claimed that the starting efficiency was no more
than a few percent. Anywhere efficiency is added along the way, the
gain will improve."
Below the design point of a DC motor (rpm & torque or power) and in
the low range of operation of any motor, the efficiency decreases to
zero at no load (even spinning like mad). The only thing being
produced at no load is heat. The smallest motor that achieves your
cruising speed is far better stuck in traffic than the bigger, faster
accelerating motor since it operates at efficient rated power more
often.
As to electric heat, while the resistor is 100% efficient at producing
heat, it consumes more energy than moving heat with a heat pump. So,
the cycle efficiency of the heat pump can be poor and still save
operating cost. Entropy loss here only means that you aren't producing
heat to lose, you're moving heat you're going to lose. :)
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