EV1 Price / NiMH Sparrow / Punishing Companies

["Troy Heagy" <troyheagy@hotmail.com>]

>"VanDerWal, Peter" <vanderwp@fhu.disa.mil>
>>>Looking at GM's website revealed that their EV1 has a list price of 
>>>$33,000
>>>(lead-acid) and $43,000 (NiMH) respectively.
>
>GM sure is misleading with those prices.  Why do they bother with a "List
>Price" when they refuse to actually sell them?


First, why are the prices misleading?  Second, the MSRP aka list price is 
what is used to calculate the lease.









>John Wayland <dat1200@europa.com>
>    Well, I see Troy has made it to the EV list!

I've been here for a while



>range, would be to use more exotic batteries, such as NiMH. A pack of these 
>that
>would
>give the car up to 100 miles range, would raise the price up by more than
>$18,000 over
>the current sticker price of around $15,000....would you want to pay 
> >$33,000 for
>a NiMH
>Sparrow?


I don't know how Mark responded, but here's my question: How did you figure 
NiMH batteries cost an additional $18,000?

(1) GM's lead-acid vs. NiMH is only an additional $10,000.

(2) A quick look at the towerhobbies.com modeling site reveals that 6-cell 
NiMH battery packs cost $60.  156V divided by 1.2 per cell = 130 cells.  So, 
~22 packs or $1320.

Now, your turn. :)





>"Travis Raybold" <travis@raybold.com>
>
>[A subsidy] means we pay the reasonable price for electricity, rather than 
>ignoring
>its environmental impacts. fine with me, ill conserve more, so will others,
>and we will have a cleaner mix of electricity generation.


Electric companies are already required to install filters in their stacks 
to limit pollution as much as possible.  What is the justification in 
punishing them further with higher taxes?

And, what cleaner alternatives do you have in mind?

Troy



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