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Ev Archive for March 2001
1589 messages, last added Wed Aug 08 18:51:22 2001

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Re: Quick Public Charging, not Range



I hate to pooh-pooh, but... 

>Perhaps rather than seeking an equivalent "huge fuel tank",
>some would be more interested in an equivalent "quick fill up".
>
>The ~180 mi range of the EV1 NMHi pack design slows the 
>charge when the pack heats up (energy is spent cooling 
>the pack). 6kw charging that pack takes at least 6 hours 
>(if the weather isn't hot).

FYI, the present NiMH EV1 range is up to 150 miles on a 
very good day, not 180. But the recharging time is not 
at least 6 hours... with a 240 volt charger, it takes 
3.5-4.5 hours for a full charge unless temperatures are 
very hot. On my trip to Montreal/New York, average trip 
segments of 120 miles were separated by 2.5 hour recharge 
stops. 

>I have a 14kw charging capacity (5 + 2.5 + 2.5 + 1 + 1 + 2,
>I need two pull through RV spots to fire them all up at 90 
>amps into my flooded cell pack). I can recharge my 50 mi+ pack
>in 1.5 hours.

While I definitely share your enthusiasm for high power 
faster chargers. But personally, I'd be kidding myself to 
say that 50 range miles is all I want from my primary car. 
I use it a lot, but the 65-70 mile range of my Ranger EV 
is not always on the winning side of convenience. 

>I would much rather see implementation of the acpropulsion.com 
>fast charging:
>http://www.acpropulsion.com/Press%20releases/Level%202+.htm
>http://www.acpropulsion.com/Level%202%20plus/Level_2_plus_details.htm
>http://www.acpropulsion.com/Level%202%20plus/Image2.gif
>http://www.acpropulsion.com/PDF%20files/Level_2_plus_EVS17.pdf
>
>Like bees buzzing around nectar laden flowers, you get what you 
>need, if and when you need it. Since most trips are ~50 miles
>the EV would have a less costly pack, yet longer trip would be
>accommodated.

Faster charging is not a direct substitute for more range. 
On the Montreal trip there were several segments where the 
trip simply wouldn't have been possible in a car that couldn't 
go the 100 or so miles between available recharge stops. Along 
I-76 through Utah there's a stretch 105 miles long where there 
literally is not a single service facilty let alone available 
electricity. 

/wk