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| Ev Archive for August 2001 |
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| 1292 messages, last added Fri Aug 31 23:58:17 2001 |
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Adc 9" timing
Ian hamilton asked:
"Anyway , I've heard that one can get better "performance" from this 9"
by rotating the brush holder housing, any thoughts on this....."
Good question Ian. I know one 8" motor performs well at a reasonably
high Voltage with 12 deg. advance from neutral. 5 and 7 degrees are
mentioned, but the 'exact' logic and quantities of advance are not
covered in EV List discussions. Some bits of information and guessing
are available.
1) Neutral is typically set on industrial motors since the customer
doesn't necessarily know what direction the motor will turn, may
use reverse at 'full power' and is happy with heavy & slow
continuous service. I believe that some small advance is optimum at
any Voltage-speed.
2) By the same reasoning, using large advance angles reduces
efficiency at low rpm. But, you shouldn't use low rpm if you don't
have to. 'Low rpm' is a problem because of heating and best
efficiency happens at medium rpm. High rpm gives you power when
needed and more cooling. This does need higher Voltage though.
(Too Low rpm = less than industrial rated speed - say, 30%
Medium rpm = rated rpm @ rated V, rated load
High rpm = Speed available with more Voltage)
2) The limit of 30 V between comm bars (per Lee Hart) is maintained by
'advance'. I think this alteration turns -off- the active rotor
coil before the Voltage difference between supply and back EMF gets
too high *. Most operation is at much lower Voltage than battery
supply since motor current limit in the controller provides reduced
Volts.
4) It is commonly thought that motor current limit (in the controller)
determines the safe Voltage level because the current in the motor
sets the Voltage difference between supply and back EMF.
The vendor of your motor should have a handle on both the advance you
should be using and the size controller that works with that motor.
Getting a specific recommendation can be tough because each
manufacturer competes to provide the least information and if you home
build an EV, chances are good you will abuse the motor somehow. The
warrantee on your motor is limited by the guy you buy it from.
* I hope there are enough 'facts' in this note to get some real motor
experts to comment. Andre Blanchard did the geometry for you.
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