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Ev Archive for September 2001
1455 messages, last added Sun Sep 30 23:05:07 2001

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Re: Got my TH!NK can't plug it in.



Hey whatever floats your boat. Just saw a statistic that a Silicon Valley
parking space costs around $70/mos to the employer. That's $840 a year for
one space. So at a corporate the cost is INCONSEQUENTIAL. You'll probably
spend more money in people's time than the cost of the installation.

He may also be able to reduce the cost by picking a better location for
the charging station. If it's a publicly accessible Avcon and a Ford
Ranger EV, Honda EVPLUS, or a conversion vehicle with an Avcon inlet
dirves up and charges.... Hopefully it'll just pop the breaker. I'm not
sure if it would meet code to wire up a device that could in it's intended
application draw 32A (using a higher powered charger) which would require
a 40A circuit on a smaller circuit like 15A.

He's welcome to do whatever he wants....

In these public / corporate installations the cost is a secondary issue to
getting the people motivated to do it.

He may be able to find ways to reduce the $2500 figure. But that cost
isn't too far off from what it would cost to do any facilities /
electrical project in a public / corporate setting.

On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Lee A. Hart wrote:

> Mike Thompson wrote:
> > A proper Avcon install as used by the Th!nk requires a 240V 40A circuit as
> > I recall.
> >
> > It really needs to be wired correctly so other EVs can use it in the
> > future.
>
> If I were in his situation, I might find this argument less than
> convincing. I should spend $2500 for a special charging outlet, so
> someone else can use it? And, it has a special connector so nothing BUT
> certain EVs can use it?
>
> An electrician might charge $100-$200 to add a normal 120vac 15amp
> outlet. That's enough to recharge my EV overnight. And anyone can use it
> for anything (Christmas lights, electric lawn mower, etc.)

Let's not forget signage and striping for an EV space, unless you want it
iced. Some installations actually like special EV connectors that can't be
addapted to other uses so the power isn't poached for other uses, say a
roaming RV. That can be good or bad. It all depends on what you want. And
He'll have to make the decisions appropriate to his situation.

> --
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> Sartell, MN 56377 USA      There is a crack in everything
> leeahart_at_earthlink.net  That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
>
>

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