RE: EVLN(Automakers Team Up to Fight ZEV Mandate)

["Crabb, David" <David.Crabb@Ceridian.com>]

I agree, but most people dont go 65 downt he interstate for 20 miles to pick
up todays paper.

Perhaps it would only be used by grandpas and grandmas.. or by paperboys in
the morning.
Its also possible that somone may drop their spouse off at the bus stop or
metro stop if it is close by.
Maybe a spouse can follow you while you run around.. they may not be in as
much shape..and certainly wouldnt run with you..  and you can have your
water right there..   all sorts of things

Any of the above, will replace a vehicle that is emitting pollutants when
cars emit them the fastest.
Short trips where the car doesnt really warm up enough to get pollution
controls running.


Highway mileage where a car is going 75 miles isn't really the problem,
otherwise.. all the pollution would be in clouds over the interstates.

Not that It wouldnt be nice if we could all have 150 mile range cars with
Honda Accord Room right now....
but why not try to lift the 35 pound weight a few times before trying for
the 100 pound dumbells.
  
 



> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mike Thompson [mailto:mikt@pair.com]
> >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:25 PM
> >To: EVL
> >Subject: RE: EVLN(Automakers Team Up to Fight ZEV Mandate)
> >
> >
> >Because we'll end up with glorified golf carts that won't 
> >eliminate many
> >of the trips made in a car. And hence the pollution benefits will be
> >limited.
> >
> >The NEVs would be 3rd or fourth vehicle and not very likely 
> >to replace one
> >of the households primary cars. Especially when you consider 
> >that NEVs
> >will have low top speeds and won't be able to use freeways 
> >or higher speed
> >roadways.
> >
> >On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Crabb, David wrote:
> >
> >> Whats so objectionable about giving Carmakers credits for 
> >selling NEVs?
> >>
> >> I would think that taking a car off the streets for city 
> >traffic <where a
> >> freeway capable car gets
> >> its worst mileage> is better than having someone drive 
> >around a car.
> >>
> >> the car often times wont warm up enough before the 
> >operator arrives at the
> >> destination.
> >>
> >> Cars are at their cleanest when driving down the highway 
> >anyway.. why
> >> worry about taking them off the street... worry about 
> >getting cars off the
> >> street
> >> while they would be polluting the most...
> >>
> >> After you implement the NEVs.. it would seem it would be 
> >easier to take the
> >> next step and
> >> replace cars on the highway..especially if the 'highway 
> >cars' could use
> >> say...4 NEV packs.
> >> <which would be cheaper by then since they would be in 
> >production already>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Bruce EVangel Parmenter [mailto:brucedp@yahoo.com]
> >> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 5:05 PM
> >> > >To: EVL
> >> > >Subject: EVLN(Automakers Team Up to Fight ZEV Mandate)
> >>
> >> > > --- {EVangel}[My thanks to Jenny Bard of http://lungusa.org]
> >> > >[This POST was sent to all EV lists/groups.
> >> > > Time to give CARB your support:
> >> > > http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/zevprog/zevprog.htm]
> >> > >
> >> > >[http://www.latimes.com/class/highway1/garage/20020123/t00000
> >> > >5691.html]
> >> > >
> >>
> >> > >A second change GM and DaimlerChrysler found objectionable
> >> > >limits the auto industry's ability to use small, golf
> >> > >cart-like Neighborhood Electric Vehicles to offset
> >> > >requirements for full-service, freeway-legal electric
> >> > >vehicles.
> >> > >
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