GAS-L: re: #'s pete

["skip goebel" <146942@email.msn.com>]

hey Pete-way to light up the board!
>>>>>>>
3rd world is not rich enough to support Capitalism -- but it thrives on
free enterprise. Just like Canada and the US did a few years back.

Capitalism is about control. Eliminating competition through market
control. Free enterprise is may the best product win -- and always keep a
level playing field.

Modern world is big on subsidizing inefficient processes to protect their
capitalists. That is not a level playing field -- is it??

Now if I put a complete design together that would out preform your system
and had it built in China so I could sell it in the US for 1/4 the price of
your system -- yet giving 4 time the kwh's -- that is free enterprise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Agreed.  That is why I am down on the grant system.  I also brag my track
record is better than NASA's!

In those pics on my website, those are Yugoslavians who are in New Zeland
and everything was paid for by the Chinese.  Unfortunately, I have a feeling
that it is now a dreadnaught power supply for three 50,000 watt pulse
lasers. ??????%*&^$^&*&

The Chinese came to me with hat in hand after attempting to copy what I have
and could not do it cost effectively.  This is where the real world comes in
and the paper and pencil become boiler bait.
The most important thing to know is that when pressures exceed 250psi and
temps get over 400 degrees,  everything gets real expensive.  No threaded
pipe, special valves, seamless tubing with lots of alloy, jig bends
everywhere and on and on........also, when you want nice efficiency figures,
you need expensive material handling, and engines need expensive materials
and on and on.......  i have addressed that problem and the new engine uses
less than 20lbs steam per hp hour on less than 400 psi, 250 nominal and 600
superheat.  same with the boiler.  I am at 8 lbs wood per hp/hr and will hit
5 on ideal conditions.
It wont change the world, just a personal accomplishement.
I still say that efficiency takes a back seat to practicality.  Just like my
car gets dramatically better milage on aviation gas but it is cheaper and
more practical to use that crap at the local store.  (ps...$2 of octaine
boost gives me an additional 100 miles per tank)

who knows?  If I sell enough of these dinosaur engines, then I can produce a
fancy engine at a cheap price....but....I just paid a bunch of taxes this
year.....someone has to pay for the 'grant crowd'

go get em Pete
Skip



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