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Gasification Archive for March 2000
76 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:16:52 2002

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RE: GAS-L: Oh!! -- that small steam power plant ---



What is the experience with using Jatropha oil in burners.  I've heard
it has bad coking (tar) problems that clog injectors.  Any experience
or comments.  Also does anyone know where I could get  Jatropha oil
for some experiments.


Mike Norris
DEKA Research and Development
Manchester USA
603 669-5139

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	*.English [SMTP:english@adan.kingston.net]
> Sent:	Saturday, March 25, 2000 10:09 AM
> To:	gasification@crest.org
> Cc:	stoves@crest.org
> Subject:	Re: GAS-L: Oh!! -- that small steam power plant ---
> 
> 
> <snip>>
>  I was considering a micro scale, in the
> > absence of an electricity grid with cooking taking place on idd
> > woodstoves (essentially small hybrid pyrolyser/gasifiers with a
> large
> > char residue) the char being utilised in cheap small gasifiers with
> no
> > (or small) problems of gas cleanup in standard spark ignition
> engines
> > to produce power.
> > 
> > AJH
> 
> Hi,
> I think this is worth a closer look.  Lets start with all our usual 
> optimistic  assumptions about fuel, technology and sociology. In a 
> mythical village of 100 people where each household cooked with  a 
> pyrolyser stove and produced .5 kg of charcoal, at roughly 60% of 
> the fuel value of gasoline. If the charcoal gasifier was 60% 
> efficient our village might accumulate the equivalent of 18 kg of 
> gasoline, or roughly 25 litres, per day.   
> 
> It is easy to produce charcoal from the "right" fuel, while producing 
> useful heat and low emissions. Check out 
> http://www.ikweb.com/enuff/public_html/Turbo/Turbo.htm
> for one example of a pyrolyser/ charcoal making stove.
> and
> http://www.ikweb.com/enuff/public_html/aburner/td1.htm
> for a recent  experiment of mine, based on the same principle.    
> 
> Perhaps some one could tell us how  much simpler it is to make a 
> charcoal gasifier than a wood gasifier for a spark ignition engine?   
>     
> 
> Lets try and compare this example to say that of a diesel unit 
> running on Jatropha oil. Aside from electrical generation, why not 
> use the torque to grind grain. For Jatropha, an hour spent pressing 
> oil can save many grinding grain. Can an hour spent resizing fuel for 
> a pyrolyser stove save as many grinding grain?       
> 
> Current  and forecasted oil prices should provide the necessary 
> "spark" to re-ignite  the gasification and biodeisel folks into 
> action.    
> 
> Alex
>                                                
>                                                           
> Alex English
> RR 2 Odessa Ontario
> Canada K0H 2H0
> Tel 1-613-386-1927
> Fax 1-613-386-1211
> 
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