Mike Oh good I thought 10% was poor- certainly it's a lot of trees to burn for not much electricity. I don't have a cost indication yet we need to iterate though energy figures first for a sample installation. I guess its going to be lots and we'll need a good customer for the heat Gavin -----Original Message----- From: owner-gasification@crest.org [mailto:owner-gasification@crest.org] On Behalf Of Mike Norris Sent: 24 January 2001 17:20 To: 'gasification@crest.org' Subject: RE: GAS-L: heat engines 10% seems amazing for what I assume is a moderate temperature source. Is 10% the right number for 280 C? If so, I'm impressed. Did the agent give an indication of the cost? Mike Norris > -----Original Message----- > From: Gavin Gulliver-Goodall [SMTP:Gavin@roseplac.worldonline.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 11:49 AM > To: gasification@crest.org > Subject: RE: GAS-L: heat engines > > Mike, > I have spoken to the UK agent(?) for Ormat > It seems that they are only about 10% efficient (hot water in to > electricity > out) which is a bit disappointing from a CHP point of view but apparently > very reliable for unattended operation.- unlike our woodchip gasifiers!! > > I am following up some potential applications for the Ormat and will share > any further technical info. > > Gavin Gulliver-Goodall > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-gasification@crest.org > [mailto:owner-gasification@crest.org] > On Behalf Of Mike Norris > Sent: 22 January 2001 14:05 > To: 'gasification@crest.org' > Subject: RE: GAS-L: heat engines > > I'd try a brayton cycle at those temperatures. I'm assuming you mean > 280C. > > Ormat in Sparks NV has a binary system to use low quality heat > (www.ormat.com). > They won't tell you anything technical as I sure it's all proprietary. > However, it is worthwhile to understand what other have been able to do > commercially. > > Mike Norris > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: WCROREY@aol.com [SMTP:WCROREY@aol.com] > > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 9:35 PM > > To: gasification@crest.org > > Subject: GAS-L: heat engines > > > > I'm new to the group. > > I am trying to find a "heat engine" to extract rotating mechanical > energy > > from amonia vapor approximately 280degrees at 150 psi. We are hoping to > > burn > > gasifier produced gas in a boiler which will serve as the heat source > for > > the > > potential ammonia system. Either Rankin or Carnot cycle - perferable > > Carnot > > cycle. > > > > We are trying to build a small proto type system for about 50 KW of > > generating capacity. > > > > Any help or direction would be appreciated. > > > > Thank you -- Bill Crorey > > The Gasification List is sponsored by > > USDOE BioPower Program http://www.eren.doe.gov/biopower/ > > and PRM Energy Systems http://www.prmenergy.com > > > > Other Sponsors, Archives and Information > > http://www.nrel.gov/bioam/ > > http://www.crest.org/renewables/gasification-list-archive > > http://solstice.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/gasref.shtml > > http://www.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/ > > http://www.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/carbon.shtml > The Gasification List is sponsored by > USDOE BioPower Program http://www.eren.doe.gov/biopower/ > and PRM Energy Systems http://www.prmenergy.com > > Other Sponsors, Archives and Information > http://www.nrel.gov/bioam/ > http://www.crest.org/renewables/gasification-list-archive > http://solstice.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/gasref.shtml > http://www.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/ > http://www.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/carbon.shtml > > The Gasification List is sponsored by > USDOE BioPower Program http://www.eren.doe.gov/biopower/ > and PRM Energy Systems http://www.prmenergy.com > > Other Sponsors, Archives and Information > http://www.nrel.gov/bioam/ > http://www.crest.org/renewables/gasification-list-archive > http://solstice.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/gasref.shtml > http://www.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/ > http://www.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/carbon.shtml The Gasification List is sponsored by USDOE BioPower Program http://www.eren.doe.gov/biopower/ and PRM Energy Systems http://www.prmenergy.com Other Sponsors, Archives and Information http://www.nrel.gov/bioam/ http://www.crest.org/renewables/gasification-list-archive http://solstice.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/gasref.shtml http://www.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/ http://www.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/carbon.shtml The Gasification List is sponsored by USDOE BioPower Program http://www.eren.doe.gov/biopower/ and PRM Energy Systems http://www.prmenergy.com Other Sponsors, Archives and Information http://www.nrel.gov/bioam/ http://www.crest.org/renewables/gasification-list-archive http://solstice.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/gasref.shtml http://www.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/ http://www.crest.org/renewables/biomass-info/carbon.shtml
