GAS-L: Conquest of the Land Through Seven Thousand Years

[Peter Singfield <snkm@btl.net>]

At 06:29 AM 1/25/2001 +0900, you wrote:
>They're two different books Peter.
>
>http://soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010119lowdermilk.usda/cls.html
>Lowdermilk: Conquest of the Land through Seven Thousand Years
>
>http://soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010113topsoilandciv/010113topsoil.toc.
html
>Dale & Carter: Topsoil and Civilization
>
>Best wishes
>
>Keith
>

Right Keith -- I have just finished downloading the second -- Dale & Carter
-- that ends with this paragraph:

"Since 1945, the United States has been generally recognized as the
economic leader of the free world. This leadership is not something
to be taken lightly. To retain this position as world leader, this
nation must assume some of the responsibilities of leadership, and
the most important responsibility that should be assumed is helping
the more backward countries raise the standard of living of their
people. It is evident that the most effective, and probably the only
way we can do so is to help them develop and conserve their natural
resources. This is one of the great challenges confronting us. If we
fail to meet this challenge effectively, the next generations may
witness the decline of civilization over all the world. To meet the
world-wide challenge effectively, we, the people of the United
States, must first put our own house in order."

Copyright 1955 by the University of Oklahoma Press -- so words written
before 1955!

Of course -- the time for this style of action has already come -- and
already gone.

Seems we failed the test of global survival. Well, there is always the next
turn of the wheel. But unless we can some how manage to change human nature
-- it certainly will be just another repeat of this one -- and Nature alone
knows how many times we have already done this in the past.

Man bites into the apple of "knowledge" forcing expulsion from the paradise
of instinctual existence. Soon after becomes corrupted with the chase for
material goods.

Bang -- one big ending. Followed by a long period of a return to paradise.

This is the theme of our "Bible". One can assume paradise along the lines
described in one book that has always impressed me with its message -- that
being planet of the apes.

Collapse of over specialized human society results in a devolutionary
tendency in the survivors. That being a blithering idiot stands a better
chance of surviving long enough to breed with another blithering idiot --
and the long march starts again.

Or do you believe that a modern "successful" man can survive "grubbing" for
bugs and roots -- plus find a modern woman doing the same -- and they both
settle down to raise a family?

This is the reason for those slow "come-backs" after ice-ages -- etc. We
develop into "moderns" very slowly as natural selection again favors the
more aggressive traits of human nature -- till we have bred  again the
present example of human evolution. To be "saved" we would have to "lose"
those genetic traits. So that one turn of the wheel the human race does not
invent concepts such a Communism or Capitalism -- or any "ism" at all!

The only person we are kidding is ourselves.

Our generation was the one born to lose it all ---- the one that never
admits to an ending -- yet starting from a subconscious level lives only
for itself. The "me" generation. No respect for either their ancestors or
their descendants. No animal living in "paradise" could ever accomplish
this level of species self extermination.It takes good old human "know-how"
to accomplish this. That is to the point where males and females of the
species no longer procreate because it is to "expensive" and interferes
with their personal quest -- materialism -- the worst "ism" of them all.

Welcome to this new age of man ------------- 


However -- from this last turn of the wheel -- we had an interesting twist
-- ever hear of Shangri-la. The lost city of scientists in the Himalayas,
from the mists of time?? The Book -- Lost Horizon -- by Hilton??

This was based on his life's research of such a city of man -- but he could
never accumulate enough evidence to "publish" -- so simply produced this
work of "Fiction" instead.

It is based on the story of the ancient "osiriana-maya" that showed up in
the Himalayas after the last ice age -- having migrated there from parts
unknown. A group of sages -- keepers of the Cosmic Sciences.

So -- for my part -- I am not just going to roll over to mass opinion (you
know -- "It Can't Happen HERE!!") and expire gracefully in my supposed
"ignorance". Not when the Maya mountains -- one of the worlds most
geographically stable areas, is my close neighbor -- just as good as the
Himalayas for surviving.

There I can also meet Maya that still live by subsistence agriculture --
and still remember how to make machetes from stone.

The rest of you sit and hope -- "its just another false alarm". Maybe this
time -- who really knows -- but we can definitely say the mold is cast --
the pattern is set -- we have gone past the point of turning back. Or
rather -- most have -- I believe in insurance -- I believe gracious living
can continue - even without any modern conveniences. And especially - even
without "power"!

These same Maya hear in Belize -- living in the most primitive conditions
-- still keep their calendar and the amazing almanac that is woven within
it. They know and knew 1000's of years ago -- the orbit of Mercury to
within seconds. They prophesied 100 year droughts. There science was to
encourage proper survival on man kind with his planet.

Their calendar ends 2012. 

Of course -- I am not suggesting some superstitious pap -- merely pointing
out that one of oldest system of science -- the Mayan calendar -- is
predicting global climatic change of the most adverse nature based on
observation of weather -- and recording of these observations -- since 3337
BC.

By the way -- still the most "accurate" calendar of all.

So -- barring supernatural events -- such as seeing into the future --
their "ending" can only be based on an observable natural ryhme over an
extended period of time. The writing and counting of the Maya here in
Central America is the same at the writing of the ancient "Naga-Maya" of
the Himalayas. (Yes -- Hilton's city is know to have existed in all
certainty -- it is proving the length of existence that was the problem to
publishing)

So it is quite possible that the geophysical data of these Maya here in
Central America work with goes far beyond 3337. 

If one looks at our present circumstances from their perspective -- then it
is most definitely not CO2 triggering global warming.

What would be amazing then -- if this does turn out accurate -- is that a
well portioned Time Capsule warning has been ignored by this modern world.

What this world needed to do 30 years ago was "Chill-out".

Instead -- "Full Speed Ahead -- and D**n The Torpedoes!"

Right -- sure formula to success.

Granted -- no matter the reason -- not much can be accomplished at this
late date.

One last point. The great city that survived the 100 years drought (about
1000 to 1100 AD) we call the ruins of today -- "Caracol". It had a
population greater than 200,000 people -- was totally self sufficient in
everything -- and unearthing the ruins is demonstrating a large "upper"
class that lived better than the romans in their prime -- which I
personally consider better than most of us have today.

This City is situated right in the most perfect area of the Maya mountains
-- here in Belize -- I know well the road to get there.

Do we have time to get the next Shangrila ready?? So that just maybe this
time a capsule of information can be developed that will properly warn our
distant future descendants of man -- what can be in store for them??

Scientifically -- there is nothing to stop us from doing it.

I believe the 3337 BC date represents when the Maya colonized here.

Wonder if Bill Gates would be interested ----

Peter Singfield / Belize
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