REPP logo banner adsolstice ad
site map
Google Search REPP WWW register comment
home
repp
energy and environment
discussion groups
calendar
gem
about us
employment
 
REPP-CREST
1612 K Street, NW
Suite 202
Washington, DC 20006
contact us
discussion groups
efficiencyefficiency hydrogenhydrogen solarsolar windwind geothermalgeothermal bioenergybioenergy hydrohydro policypolicy
Gasification Archive for February 2001
179 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:17:37 2002

[Date Index][Thread Index]

Wasted throttle power


  • To: gasification@crest.org
  • Subject: Wasted throttle power
  • From: Reedtb2@cs.com
  • Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:32:14 EST
  • Delivered-To: mailing list gasification@crest.org
  • Mailing-List: contact gasification-help@crest.org; run by ezmlm

Dear Prof. Parikh and All:

While looking for new sources of energy for the next millenium, please
consider "wasted throttle power".  

1)  Spark and diesel engines are both "hot air machines" (with <= 6% fuel
thrown in to heat the air).

2)  The diesel engine does not throttle the air - only the fuel, so there are
no "throttle losses" and the diesel burns from lean to very lean and so is
very efficient.

3)  The spark ignited engine requires a close to stoichiometric mixture, so
must throttle the mixture from near atmospheric to very small values to
control power.  The butterfly throttle is a MAJOR waster of power.

4)  Can't one of you clever gals or guys invent a "working throttle" (like
the exhaust turbo) to recycle some of this energy?  How much energy is it to
take the mixture from a power producing near atmospheric pressure to a power
wasting 25 inches vacuum?  (Probably related to R ln (p2/p1)).

Too busy to figure it myself...

Cheers,     TOM REED




In a message dated 2/19/01 2:34:23 AM Mountain Standard Time,
A.Weststeijn@epz.nl writes:




Hi Peter,



Dr. Thomas B. Reed, President, The Biomass Energy Foundation, 1810 Smith Rd.,
Golden, CO 80401
Email reedtb2@cs.com; www.woodgas.com; 303 278 0558 home; 303 278 0560 Fax

Dr. Thomas B. Reed, Principal Scientist,
The Community Power Corporation, Reedtb2@cs.com; www.gocpc.com;  303 278 0558