Re: GAS-L: biomass gasification for hydrogen production - future potential

[Peter Singfield <snkm@btl.net>]

>    If I were you I'd be demostrating for better,
>safer, smaller nukes and a sane policy on it's
>disposal
> problems that are availible now if the nuke histeria
>would die down over it.


Jerry -- me to!

What ever happened to those plasma nuclear reactors the Russians were
making years ago -- in a torus shape I believe -- where the plasma was
generated by nuclear energy -- and then rotated around the torus --
electrons being striped out -- and power generated -- no moving parts!

Low radiation as well. 

They were basically "batteries" -- 

Believe they used them for a satellite power plant or two.

The micro nuclear reactor that was very safe and very "cheap".

Remember an old popular mechanics or something showing the off-loading of a
large crate from a Herc Transport plane -- saying it was the first such
nuclear reactor to reach the US -- and it was for "testing" -- believe it
was 5 megWe capacity. First thing bought and delivered after the cold war
ended.

This was the power plant that Cuba was installing around South America 30
or more years back??

Great solution to our energy problems -- shorting of lining up and shooting
2/3 of this worlds population.

What to do with the wastes??

I worked for Dr. Bull and the Space Research Corp -- many years ago -- in
the mid 60's. We actually succeeded in launching a satellite using an giant
cannon fabricated from two gun barrels wleded together -- end to end -- off
a sunken German Destroyer of WWII.

Yes -- the same infamous Dr. Gerald Bull of "Super-gun" movie fame. What --
you all thought that was "fiction". Come come now --- the man existed -- he
did build cannons that could launch shells into outer space -- and he was
knocked off for getting to close to helping Iraq owning a "Super-Gun".

The problem with space launching using a cannon is the incredible G forces.
But shooting shells loaded with depleted fuel into the sun is not only very
feasible -- but very economic as well.

And very "green" -- as it helps -- though very minutely -- fuel the sun to
last longer.

The other solution is to bury wastes deep in the crust -- to help keep our
central nuclear reactor going a little longer -- which some say is the real
reason the planet earth is not a ball of ice.

Hey guys -- in a real well balanced system -- there is no "wastes" -- right?


Peter Singfield / Belize



At 02:37 PM 5/21/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>      Hi Thomas and All,
>--- Thomas Ziegler <thomas@biopilze.de> wrote:
>> friends!
>
>     I hope we still are after this post ;^).
>> 
>> as i realized the production of h2 (eg for
>> car-use..) in large
>> quantities by mainstream-industries seems to be
>> planned already long
>> terms (this i read between the lines when they talk
>> of
>> red/green-ideological politics that will vanish soon
>> again...) to be
>> made by use of NUCLEAR POWERED water electrolysis...
>      They have been planning it for 50 years but the
>problems of H2 have kept it down. There are few uses
>for H2 that the base fuel wouldn't be better for even
>if nukes are used. 
>     If H2 is needed it's easily, cheaply made from
>biomass.
>    If nukes are to power transportation Electric cars
>are the way to go with 5 times the eff of a H2 powered
>car. Even with fuel cells power from nuke H2, EV's are
>still Twice as eff from nukes or other sources.
>> 
>> as a part of europes anti-nuclear activist i plead
>> for concentration on
>> alternative power: THE SUN -in whatever from best a
>> mix of woodgas,
>> biogas, syngas, h2, veggie-oil, pv, wind, ...
>> 
>> what do you think??
>     I think that nukes done right, smaller , much
>safer, are the only thing we can do to keep from using
>coal which each plant puts out more radiation,
>radioative metals like uranium, thorium, americium,
>radon, ect than the whole nuke industry combined. 
>     Besides this acid rain, NO2 and not to mention
>mercury the most destrutive of them all. 
>      I'm willing to risk problems with well
>controlled nukes vs the known equivilent of a nuke
>accident put out of coal plants every week right now.
>      What is Europe going to do when their nukes are
>shut down. Most of the alternatives destroy the eco
>many times worse.
>    I know Chernobel was bad but it was neither well
>built, maintained or well run but the destruction it
>caused is a pitance compared to what coal has and is
>still doing.
>     But even with it compare the destruction that 
>coal plants have done to Europe and to a lesser extent
>the US it's a piker( little one).. 
>     I plead for biofuels too, solar, wind, non-dam
>hydro and am actively working to get more of them used
>to cut the use of fossil fuels and their pollution. 
>     I'm not a believer of CO2 caused global warming
>but the other problems of fossil fuels from their
>extraction and burning is what I worry about.
>   The earths temperature is well within it's normal
>range. It was several degrees higher in the 1000 AD
>times. It's these swings that are the reason we evoled
>because we could adapt to the naturally changing
>climate that's normal for the earth. The average earth
>temp has changed 10C in a couple of years many times
>in the past. You have been warned.  
>      Reliance on big corporations for my energy is
>another problem I'm doing something about.     
>    Decentralized power production is the wave of the
>future as can be seen in California what happens when
>power production is in the hands of the few. 
>    If I were you I'd be demostrating for better,
>safer, smaller nukes and a sane policy on it's
>disposal
> problems that are availible now if the nuke histeria
>would die down over it.
>     Of course also for Biofuels, solar, wind, ect.
>      Conservation and eff are the best way to go no
>matter what fuel you use as Bush is finding out right
>now.
>               jerry dycus
> 
>> thomas
>> 
>> -- 
>> der kleine deutsche oeko-pilz-anbauer \
>> the  small  german organic mushroomer  
>> http://www.biopilze.de/wir.htm
>> le petit eco - champignoneur allemand /
>
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