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Gasification Archive for November 2001
156 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:18:06 2002

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Co-firing any coal fired power plant with biomass such as this is a huge
plus for greenness -- true -- or not true?

And it certainly would put so many people to work here in Belize!

Thanks for the input Andries!!

Peter / Belize


At 12:05 AM 11/3/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>	Peter Singfiled writes about the downed wood in Belize:
>
>> A good job that does a lot of good for everyone concerned! A win-win-win
>> situation!
>> 
>Is worth a look. The big advantage is that there is (according to Peter)  an
>ample supply within a reasonable distance (...up to 30 miles...) from an
>operable port (...excellent deep water port with banana boats loading for
>Europe...).
>
>> How do I contact the European community? Certainly -- they could help
>> greatly in this matter by simply being a market for this product??
>> 
>I don't think the EU in Brussels provides a market as such. But that isn't
>to say that players in the green market in the EU couldn't get together.
>That might be worth another look.
>
>> Andries -- Arnt -- what say?? Help some starving Maya Indians (our country
>> is broke) -- be green (better pellets to CO2 than lots of methane from
>> rotting) -- set back global warming by replacing coal with biomass.
>> 
>I agree this is a win-win situation, doing two good things at the same time.
>
>> Your Company alone could save the entire country of Belize.
>> 
>...if we could get it in a shape that we can process it, that is.
>
>> But here is the crux of the matter -- how much would those pellets be
>> worth??
>> 
>Don't think in terms of pellets. Those were introduced in the postings due
>to the export of sawdust pellets from the lumber industry.
>You primarily don't have sawdust, but solid wood in all shapes and sizes.
>After the necessary field work you could settle on shipping logs, fist-size
>lumps and chips. 
>
>Next to that, manufacture with relatively economic local labor: pelleted
>sawdust and charcoaled bits and pieces. 
>Perhaps as local employment project?
>
>Price in the end is a function of CV and "fit-for-end-use" condition. 
>A little early to discuss numbers.
>I'll do some backchecking on the shipping costs.
>
>> I could supply all the raw wood you needed -- delivered from up to 30 mile
>> radius -- for a cost of around $20 US per ton and less (for closer)
>> Would it be worth the processing into pellets and shipping to Europe??
>> 
>I doubt about the idea of pellets, apart from what you possibly can make as
>an extra from locally collected sawdust as part of the clean-up logging of
>the larger logs.
>
>> We have an excellent deep water port right there!! Big Creek is the name.
>> This is where the large banana boats load up -- banana for Europe!
>> (Unfortunately -- greater than 95% of that industry was destroyed in this
>> hurricane)
>> Excellent land at Big Creek for building a large wood processing
>> plant/yard.
>> Can this be done listers??
>> 
>Perhaps the answer is in a combination of higher and lower added-value
>products, to partially offset the "extra costs" of the logging field work.
>The field work will be a "real cost" in this case, as opposed to the
>situation where "avoided tipping charges" constitute a revenue.
>
>I'll be back.
>Andries
>
>
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