GAS-L: Fluidyne website

["Thomas Reed" <tombreed@home.com>]

Dear All:

I just visited Doug Graeme's website at Fluidyne,

www.fluidynenz.250x.com

and was glad to see a lot of science and engineering data in one place.  I'm
not sure I agree with ALL the details, but I suggest that King, Kelley and I
go over them in details and compare with our CPC results....

We all have lots to learn and need to pay particular attention to those with
real experience rather than the "talkers" and theorizers.

TOM REED                    BEF


Subject: GAS-L: Gasifiers and engines


> Dear Gasification Colleagues
>
> I have watched with interest the latest round of enthusiastic discussion
on
> cheap gasifiers and even cheaper engines. Its even more interesting to
read
> the conclusions of these exchanges, particularly when so few have even
seen
> or operated a gasifier.
>
> The difficulty of actually purchasing a gasifier from a manufacturer by an
> individual is no indication that an untapped market exists.  Compared to
the
> manufacturers difficulty of finding an individual customer with money in a
> market assessed to be large is a different story altogether.
>
> Some of you seemed impressed by the cost of Indian gasifiers even though
to
> me their cost is far in excess of their worth if we built the same thing
in
> New Zealand.  Have a look again at the Pacific Class gasifier on the
> Fluidyne archive (www.fluidynenz.250x.com) and see what you could have
> bought in 1998 for US$15,996 FOB Auckland.  Freight to almost anywhere
> averaged US$4,000 and for this amount you also got 2 years consumable
spare
> parts and a 1 year warranty on our components.  We also included 2 weeks
of
> training and installation assistance to the customer in his country of
use,
> although he had to feed and house us once we arrived.  Did that sound like
a
> good deal?
>
> How about adding a Lister Dual fuelled generator set with a power supply
> stability factor that exceeded the regulatory specifications, complete of
> course with the Lister guarantee if used on our gasifier?
>
> Even with price, service, and equipment like this we still couldn't sell
> them!!
>
> I feel quite stupid really when I read how easily it is proposed to
convert
> this or that engine for use with producer gas, and read a book or two on
how
> to eliminate tars, particularly when I think of the hoops we jumped
through
> to meet Listers' and other engine suppliers specifications.
>
>  Possibly the ease of driving around Australia and cutting your fuel from
> the roadside has appeal, but accessing these web pages from another
country
> doesn't enable it to be duplicated easily outside Australia.
>
> Dead wood in the Australian bush is unlike anything I have seen on my
> travels (I grew up there), in hardness, brittleness, dryness and quality
in
> its conversion to charcoal.  Its possibly the only fuel type where you can
> add steam to improve the hydrogen content as there isn't much moisture
left
> after baking in the sun for untold years.  Don't take my word for it
> however, and try adding steam to the next wood gasifier that comes your
way!
>
> For those of you who have only recently joined this forum, I would
recommend
> that you take time to read the early Gasification Archives.  It does take
> time but you will have quite a lot of good solid information and comment
on
> most of the current subjects being discussed.  There is a lot more to
> gasification than enthusiasm.
>
> Regards
> Doug Williams
> Fluidyne Gasification.
>
>
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