RE: GAS-L: Fuel Cells -- ethanol -- reforming natural gas

["Pletka, Ryan J." <PletkaRJ@bv.com>]

Actually, gasification to produce hydrogen for fertilizer manufacture is
relatively "common."

We just completed a 1,143 ton per day (tpd) pet coke gasification project
for Farmland.  Plant products include 74.6 million cu ft per day of hydrogen
for use in an 1100 tpd ammonia synthesis loop and 636 tpd of 99 percent
carbon dioxide.

Ryan

Ryan Pletka
Black & Veatch Energy Services Group
11401 Lamar /  Overland Park, KS 66211 USA
913-458-8222

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Hauserman [SMTP:hauserman@corpcomm.net]
> Sent:	Friday, January 11, 2002 9:32 AM
> To:	GAS-L; CAVM@aol.com
> Subject:	Re: GAS-L: Fuel Cells -- ethanol -- reforming natural gas
> 
> To:  CAVM et al.
> Ref.:  Below
>  
>     Quite true. I said that hydrogen "can be" made from a wade variety of
> raw materials - Essentially from anything that can be gasified to an H2+CO
> syngas. But as Tom Reed  rightly points out, this is still quite expensive
> and impractical.   As far as I know, all commercial hydrogen is currently
> made by large scale reforming of natural gas, though even coal
> gasification - probably on an even larger scale - looks promising. But
> getting the stuff to end users is clearly expensive and often impractical.
> Major current uses are large scale hydrogenation of heavy petroleum
> fractions and vegetable oils, and launching space shuttles. The microchip
> industry is a big, distributed demand for small per-site amounts.  The
> mandated premise of hydrogen-fuel-cell vehicles is that ALL vehicles may
> eventually get expensive and impractical to operate,  either due to
> inevitable depletion of petroleum reserves or human-imposed (geopolitical
> or environmental) constraints. 
>  
>  
> Bill Hauserman 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: < CAVM@aol.com <mailto:CAVM@aol.com>>
> To: < gasification@crest.org <mailto:gasification@crest.org>>
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: GAS-L: Fuel Cells -- ethanol -- reforming natural gas
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> > In a message dated 1/10/2002 10:30:08 AM Central Standard Time, 
> > hauserman@corpcomm.net <mailto:hauserman@corpcomm.net> writes:
> > 
> > << Hydrogen can be made from a huge variety of  primary raw materials, 
> > including biomass and garbage, as well as coal and "surplus" natural
> gas. >>
> > 
> > 
> > I am very interested in this comment.  I thought the production of
> hydrogen 
> > was expensive and impractical except for certain uses.
> > 
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