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Gasification Archive for February 2002
42 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:18:14 2002

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Re: GAS-L: maximum pressure



Hello --

In the mid-eighties, we had been scheduled to use a Canadian developed
gasifier, developed over the previous 15 years or so, by SNC -
Hydro-Quebec - Nouveler and operated at 10 atmospheres with a gas output at
1000 F and fed directly into the combustor of a Brown-Bavari gas turbine --
output of near 50 MW.  The gasifier was to be first used -- after
temperature reduction and washing of the output gas -- in a diesel electric
system in French Guiana.  The developer, SNC (now the largest Canadian
engineer firm) was to be paid for developing the conversion to cleaned gas
under contract with the French government -- We were told that the French
decided not to honor the SNC investment (?) -- after the gasifier had been
shipped to Guiana and tested -- SNC backed out of our agreement saying that
they could not go forward until they had been paid for their prior effort.
The B-B turbine was no longer produced -- and our project crashed.  We had a
PURPA 55 MW contract at the time, but our fate was shared by many holding
those contracts.

The primary difficult operating the gasifier was the pressurized lock-box
arrangement feeding the fuel into the gasifier.  That seemed to have been
reasonable perfected on a system -- operating at 10 tons per hour -- that
had been tested in Canada.

Dick


----- Original Message -----
From: <LINVENT@aol.com>
To: <hauserman@corpcomm.net>; <vanderdrift@ecn.nl>; <gasification@crest.org>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: GAS-L: maximum pressure


> Dear Bill,
>     The high pressure gasification of biomass has been done on a large
scale
> at the Hawaii project where sugar cane bagasse was fed into a high
pressure
> system with oxygen feed. The recent offerings from the DOE have requested
low
> pressure gasification technology to deal with the material handling
problems
> into and out of the gasification system at pressure. Considering that the
DOE
> was a major sponsor of the Hawaii project, this is an interesting
> philosophical change.
>     The major benefit to high pressure is not having to compress the gas
to
> feed into a turbine which operates at 150-350 psi. Compressing the gas
after
> gasification is a significant parasitic load.
>     There are ways to deal with the power generation without having to
worry
> about pressurized systems which work out very economic.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Leland T. Taylor
>  President
>  Thermogenics Inc.
> 7100-2nd St. NW, Albuquerque, New Mexico 87107
> phone 505-761-1454 fax 505-761-1456
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