Re: GAS-L: ONLINE DATABASE - SARGOB

["Paulo Jardim" <pjardim.trp@terra.com.br>]

Hello George,

I had the same doubt some weeks ago and I consulted NREL and DOE about this
matter. I received the following answer from Mr. Phil Shepherd, from NREL.

Paulo Jardim
COMLURB - Rio de Janeiro (COMLURB is responsible for the collection and
final destination of Rio´s MSW.

Hi, Paulo

Gasification is not generally used to treat MSW.  There are two pilot plants
operating in Italy as disclosed in a previous report by NREL.  There is also
one commercial plant in Karlsruhe Germany, but I heard a rumor that it is
operating at 1/2 capacity by government ruling related to emissions.  Puerto
Rico considered gasification of MSW but finally decided on mass burn
combustion.  Pyrolysis of MSW has been tried but fails every time because
commercial scale pyrolysis requires a homogeneous feedstock.  You can learn
more about gasification of MSW by reading our report Evaluation of
Gasification and Novel Thermal Processes for the Treatment of MSW.  You can
find this on the Internet at
http://pix.nrel.gov:8020/BASIS/nich/www/nrel/SDF  or search for it at
http://www.nrel.gov/cgi-bin/pubspage.cgi.

There are many gasification plants in the United States but they as you
noted, usually process agricultural waste, predominantly rice hulls.

Good luck.
Phil Shepherd
phil_shepherd@nrel.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: Paulo Jardim [mailto:pjardim.trp@terra.com.br]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:39 AM
To: Shepherd@NREL.GOV
Subject: MSW energy


Dear Mr. Shepherd

I have contacted Mr. Carlin, as stated bellow, and he asked me to contact
you. My question is :
Is gasification an approved technology for MSW ?
Are there american or european plants really in commercial operation with
gasification or pyrolisis technologies ?
Some companies come to Rio to offer this technology. We  use landfills for
almost all our MSW and we need to know if this is technology till the moment
is a real possibility for MSW.
Thank you in advance.
Best Regards
Paulo Jardim



-----Mensagem Original-----
De: "George Brigliadoro" <grb126@hotmail.com>
Para: <parikh@me.iitb.ac.in>; <gasification@crest.org>
Cc: <tombreed@attbi.com>
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 27 de março de 2002 12:00
Assunto: Re: GAS-L: ONLINE DATABASE - SARGOB


> Hello all,
>
> Does anyone know of an operating gasification plant using MSW as a
> feedstock? If so can you send me some information, I have an application
and
> the possible financing for two 300 TPD plants.
>
> Thank you,
> George Brigliadoro
>
>
> >From: Prof P P Parikh <parikh@me.iitb.ac.in>
> >To: gasification <gasification@crest.org>
> >CC: Thomas Reed <tombreed@attbi.com>
> >Subject: GAS-L: ONLINE DATABASE - SARGOB
> >Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:45:23 +0530 (IST)
> >
> >Dear all
> >
> >A database on Gasification of Biomass has been put ONLINE interactively
by
> >us at IIT Bombay India. This database is called as SARGOB [State of the
> >Art Report on Biomass Gasification]. The collection and compilation is a
> >work of past many years and almost complete till 1994. Further work is
> >going on to make it absolutely up to date. This idea was was given by Dr
> >Reed and I am sure he will be happy to see it realised after so much
> >effort. Please visit the site and send us your suggestions. Please note a
> >provision is being made to add records online for which a membership mode
> >is being designed. Then everybody will be able to contribute and use the
> >database. It is all because of co-operation and help of all gasification
> >community particularly TOM REED. Thanks DR Reed.
> >
> >Mrs Parikh
> >
> >www.me.iitb.ac.in/garp/home.html
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