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Gasification Archive for April 2002
36 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:18:17 2002

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RE: GAS-L: Transportation Cost and Storage



There is a specialist firm based in Sweden with a base in Orlando who can provide turnkey packages or individual components to help with the whole chip handling and storage solutions. Including chip drying.

As you know chips will decompose quite rapidly if stored in a pile when wet. This decomposition not only reduces calorific value but also introduce moulds and spores which may become a hazard for the people handling the chips and in the dust emissions of any subsequent process.

 

Try www.bruks.com

 

I do consultancy for them on their continuous bed dryer system which I believe to be the most cost effective method of drying chips for a thermal process.

 

Good luck with your project

 

PS Keith walking floors are good but you can also use Scraper floor systems. Or large auger-filled receiving bays

 

Gavin 

 

 

Gavin Gulliver-Goodall

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-----Original Message-----
From: Motie [mailto:motie@paulbunyan.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 20:31
To: James Fields
Cc: gasification@crest.org
Subject: Re: GAS-L: Transportation Cost and Storage

 

Subject: Re: GAS-L: Transportation Cost and Storage

 

Our feedstock is chipped and piled at a landfill.  We would like to transport the chips 15 miles to a power plant where we will integrate a gasifier.  The majority of the chips may remain at the landfill, but we would like to store a weeks worth supply of feedstock at the power plant.  I realize that putting the feedstock in a silo or closed building would be disastrous.  The main question is how to store the weeks supply, 1000 tons, at the plant...just pile them, three walled building?

 

Any help is appreciated

 

James Fields

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James,

A silo would not necessarily be disastrous, though it could have that potential. Moisture and oxygen content is the critical factor.

A 3 sided building may be the most economically feasable way to store it, but it does increase the handling costs, unless you put in a feed system right from the storage building. You will want to keep rain off of it. Rain water is highly oxygenated.

The secret will be to continually rotate the feedstock, so it doesn't have time to build up heat, although if it's already in a pile at the landfill, it may have finished it's initial heating. Fresh chips are more susceptable to heating.

The heat is caused by bacterial action in the presence of oxygen, with enough moisture present to keep the 'bugs' happy.

 

 

http://keithwalkingfloor.com/page3.html

A walking floor may be of interest to you. These can be retrofitted into a van trailer to make it a self-unloader, and dump inside your building without 30 foot ceilings. No need to dump in the yard, then carry it with a frontend loader to the storage building.

 They can also be used to feed the stock out of your storage bin or bunker into a conveyor on the backside.

 

 

An informal recomendation would be to equip your trucks with a Keith walking Floor in a 45 foot van trailer. These should be able to haul 25 ton loads. 100 cubic yards. You'll need 40 loads of storage space, or 4000 cubic yards.

15 feet high(5 yards) would require 800 yards of floor space. An 80x100 building should work. Large vents in the peak ot the roof and under the eaves will remove a lot of moisture for you.

 

A round storage bunker or silo would also be usable, but you won't get the surface area exposure for natural drying.

A 40 foot round structure would need to be piled 20 feet deep to store your reserve supply.

 

http://www.laidig.com/brochure-98s.htm

If you decide to go with a silo, you'll need to unload it.

 

LOL I don't get any commission from either of these companies.

 

Have you done any planning on the loading of the trucks at the landfill?

 

This should give you a few things  to consider.

Let me know if I'm on the right track with your needs.

 

Motie

Maybe it's a personal quirk, but can you CC to the Gas list? As long as I am making a donation of my time, I would like it to benefit anyone else who may be having problems too.

You may also get additional replies from someone who has an entirely different perspective from mine.