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Gasification Archive for April 2002
36 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:18:17 2002

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Re: GAS-L: Transportation Cost and Storage



Thanks for the suggestion.  We hadn't thought of drying the wood before transporting it, but it is the most sensible thing to do.  There is an abundance of landfill gas available to us currently being flared.
 
Cody Fields
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: GAS-L: Transportation Cost and Storage

James and fellow list members,

I have been a Lurker on this list for many months and this is my first post and I take this opportunity of saying hello to all. Rather than repeating myself here, I have recently made my first post to the "Stoves" list under the subject "another lurker pops up" and you can get some insight to my activities by referring to that post.
 

James Fields wrote:

"I am examining the feasibility of constructing an indirect fluidized bed gasifier and utilizing the gas for energy production.  I am looking for suggestions or rules of thumb on estimating transportation costs of the wood feedstock"

I am presently  in the process of setting up a woodchip to power operation but on a much smaller scale, I am setting up the entire operation at the site where we grow and harvest the fuel from coppiced woodland. You haven't said just what the wood chip is coming from but if it is wet I presume it is tree debris rather than scrap lumber (which could be rain soaked/waterlogged in any event), either way, do you really want to pay to transport hundreds of tons of water 15 miles across Texas? If you can't set up the plant at the site of the fuel source, which is by far the method of choice, then the next best thing is to leave what you don't want at that site and what you definitely don't want is water! - water will be your biggest problem throughout the entire operation it gives you transportation problems (every 20 ton load can include around 8 tons of water), storage problems (fungus and spores etc) and a greater chance of spontaneous combustion problems and final combustion problems by, amongst other things, diluting the gas. Tom Reed made a very valid comment in his reply to my post on "stoves" he said (quote) " We don't burn wet gasoline, so why should we think we can burn wet wood?"  However the combustion problem can be overcome by employing the combustion method that I use, but I haven't got to worry about transportation costs, if I did then I would certainly dry before transporting.

 Sun drying woodchip is slow and not easy, which is why woodchip makes such a good horticultural mulch, the mechanical handing requirements for constant turning of the chip during sun/free air drying may be economically prohibitive, especially with the quantity you are consuming and the time scale allowed. I would suggest that you set up a drying operation at the landfill site using a recirculating steam drying process, moving the wood chip through in a thin layer on a conveyor or even by bulk drying it before chipping, it will pay for itself in no time and can of course be fired by woodchip or, if available, methane from the land fill. This method will also provide "waste" heat which can be reused on the site, you may even be able to sell it back to the landfill site for heating etc. By using this method you can transport ONLY the dry fuel using bulk containers which will give you at least 35/40 percent more combustible fuel capacity per trip. Storage problems on the power site can also be overcome by using a "just in time" method and holding only a few days supply.

I hope this will be of help.
 

David Reynolds-Lacey