Re: GAS-L: Wood Burning Cars in WWII France

["Tom Miles" <tmiles@trmiles.com>]

Brian,

Interesting project. Some people on the list should have some historical
knowledge of the gasogene.

You have probably found the "Histoire du gasogene at
http://alsace.bossue.free.fr/gasogene.htm by the Rotary Club de Sarre-Union
and their Projet Gazogene http://membres.lycos.fr/rotarysu/projetgazo.htm

Rotary Club de SARRE-UNION
Restaurant Klein, F-67260 Sarre-Union
Tél : 03 88 00 11 82
FAX : 03 88 00 11 82
Internet : rotarysu@multimania.com

I'm sure that in the course of their restoration projects they have found
the answers to many of your questions.

There is also the

Club Auto Retro Gazo

15 Rue de Vignes

67170 Bernolsheim

tel 03 88 51 87 05


Or you can buy a classic and try it yourself
http://www.quaidejavel.com/annonces/fiche_05_074.html Traction 15/6
fonctionnant au Gazogène Sabatier-Decauville de 1939 (très bon état)

Jean Daninos built the Gazogene Facel (Forges et Ateliers de Construction d'
Eure-et-Loir) in 1939 during the occupation.
http://www.facelvega.com/hifrog1.htm

Models like the Citroen Avant 22 were built in 1939 with holes through the
chassiss to adapt a gazogene

A gasozene is referred to the the description of the occupation at
http://perso.respublica.fr/chateaubriant/page11.html Charcoal was made from
the wood surrounding Chateubriant. One problem was simply running out of
wood: http://www.kav.cas.cz/~buble/text/fr/HommeQuiPlanaitDesArbres.html

Gasozenes figure as vehicles in a French role playing game where the earth
is plunged into eternal darkness and humanity is threatened with extinction
http://www.sden.org/jdr/solsys/ap.htm See Les missiones
autonomones>Vehicules>Carburant  (wood or charcoal permitted)


Kind regards,

Tom Miles


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian J. Underhill" <pequeno@teleport.com>
To: <gasification@crest.org>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:16 PM
Subject: GAS-L: Wood Burning Cars in WWII France


> Greetings all,
>
> I'm an author and game designer working with Steve Jackson Games on a
> roleplaying sourcebook for WWII France entitled RETURN TO HONOR
> (http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/ww2/returntohonor/).
>
> In the course of the project, I'm trying to find information on the old
> wood-burning civilian cars found largely in the Occupation zone (and
> elsewhere at times). Any information you might be able to provide, or
> sources you could point me to, would be very helpful.
>
> Specifically, I'm interested in things like:
>
>
> How much additional weight did a wood-burning contraption add?
>
> What kind of mileage (fuel economy) did a wood-burning vehicle get (i.e.,
> how many pounds/kilos of wood per mile/km)?
>
> Could a wood-burning unit be added to just any car? Were some cars better
> suited to it than others?
>
> Was wet or dry wood better? How small did it have to be to burn? Chunks,
> sticks, twigs, chips?
>
> How difficult was it to build such a unit from scratch? What kind of
> skills/tools were needed?
>
>
> While the book deals specifically with France in WWII, *any* information
on
> wood-burning vehicles will be helpful. I can't imagine that wood-burners
in
> other parts of the world were that much different from those in France. It
> is, however, important that the material be specific to the 1940s.
>
> Thanks in advance. Hope to hear from someone soon. :)
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> --
> Brian J. Underhill
> pequeno@teleport.com
> brian@brianunderhill.com
> http://www.brianunderhill.com/
> http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/ww2/returntohonor/
> http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/cliffhangers/
> http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/traveller/heroes1/
> --
> "These days I'm feelin' alright, 'cept I
>  can't tell my courage from my desperation."
>             - Local Hero, Bruce Springsteen
>
>
> -
> Gasification List Archives:
> http://www.crest.org/discussion/gasification/200202/
>
> Gasification List Moderator:
> Tom Reed, Biomass Energy Foundation,  Reedtb2@cs.com
> www.webpan.com/BEF
> List-Post: <mailto:gasification@crest.org>
> List-Help: <mailto:gasification-help@crest.org>
> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gasification-unsubscribe@crest.org>
> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gasification-subscribe@crest.org>
>
> Sponsor the Gasification List: http://www.crest.org/discuss3.html
> -
> Other Gasification Events and Information:
> http://www.bioenergy2002.org
> http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1010424940_7.html Bioenergy
> http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975339_7.html Gasification
> http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975672_7.html Carbon
>
>



-
Gasification List Archives:
http://www.crest.org/discussion/gasification/200202/

Gasification List Moderator:
Tom Reed, Biomass Energy Foundation,  Reedtb2@cs.com
www.webpan.com/BEF
List-Post: <mailto:gasification@crest.org>
List-Help: <mailto:gasification-help@crest.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gasification-unsubscribe@crest.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:gasification-subscribe@crest.org>

Sponsor the Gasification List: http://www.crest.org/discuss3.html
-
Other Gasification Events and Information:
http://www.bioenergy2002.org
http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1010424940_7.html Bioenergy
http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975339_7.html Gasification
http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975672_7.html Carbon