Re: GAS-L: Hackers are like gasifier tinkerers.

[Harmon Seaver <hseaver@cybershamanix.com>]

On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 10:27:15AM -0800, Joel Florian wrote:
> Hear Hear!,
> 
> Hackers and virus makers are like the tinkerers who build low-budget 
> gasifiers in their backyards.  Some of the tinkerers have an intuitive 
> understanding of gasification that surpasses researchers and CEO's with 
> huge credentials.  I'd be willing to bet that there are 20 or so people on 
> this list (I don't claim to be one of them) who could build a gasifier out 
> of scrap and mass-produced parts  and then run an engine off the gas -- and 
> you could do in less time, space, and budget than any of the high-profile 
> projects we've discussed in the last years.  Our society depends on 
> "modern" technology  but the average American has much less common sense 
> than his grandfather.  Most of us think we are smart if we seek the 
> opinions of some overpaid ,nationally recognized, "expert".   Unless our 
> society quits worshiping "modern experts" and gets back to the common sense 
> approach of doing what works, every innovator will become a "threat to our 
> nation."  That means those of us who are interested in 
> gasification.   Anyone who thinks something can be done better is a threat 
> to those who profit from the way it is being done now.  Anyone who thinks 
> that their "good" idea is going to bring the world to their feet is very 
> naive.  Ideas are rarely judged on their own merit, don't forget about 
> money, politics, personal ambition.   For every innovation, there are 
> dozens of people who oppose it merely because their livehood or reputation 
> is based on the status quo.

   Yes -- I just finished reading a biography ("Wizard") of Nikolai Tesla --
absolutely astounding, and a really sad commentary on how corporations and
governments work to destroy and discredit people whose inventions and genius
threaten the status quo.

> 
> 
> I believe we as Americans face a bigger danger than terrorism -- our own 
> stupidity.   To give you an example:  without statistics to verify this, I 
> bet more people have died in the last year from drunk driving than from 
> terrorist attacks.   The government can't legislate stupidity.  I don't 
> believe that anything can be totally foolproof -- fools are the best 
> innovators around.
> 

   Exactly -- and the "terrorism" we're seeing now is just the fruits of gov't
policy over many decades. If indeed it isn't all planned by the CIA and the evil
little retard in the whitehouse. It's almost funny -- I'm not a bit afraid of
terrorists, but I'm scared stiff of the government, and get more so every
day. And more disgusted and sickened. But it's not just the US, it seems to have
infected the whole english speaking world. Almost like a sci-fi novel or
something. 
   

-- 
Harmon Seaver	
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com

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