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Gasification Archive for August 2002
71 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:18:24 2002

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GAS-L: Gasifcation technology information.



Dear All 

At first I would like to thank Cordner for his (free) information. 
I am looking forward to the restricted version!!
I hope we will get the facts version from all the other countries.
There is an urgent need for upgrading of the available information concerning gasification and pyrolysis.

It is a major problem for commercialisation of gasification technology, that potential investors can not get reliable information from the public sources.

This was also clearly seen at atmosphere at the Amsterdam conference. 
It is hard for me to believe that it will be possible to get funds to continue the development og gasification and pyrolysis technology if we do not show some workning gasifiers/pyrolyseres very soon.

We are all tired of big promises ending up in 5-500 tons of scrap, presented as a major technological step forward for 10 years. 


Looking forward to continue the discussion


Best regards


Thomas Koch






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cordner Peacocke" <cpeacocke@care.demon.co.uk>
To: <gasification@crest.org>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 11:30 PM
Subject: GAS-L: GAS L: UK situation - IEA report


Dear All,

Having read the IEA report on biomass gasification, fact and fiction need 
to be separated, as Thomas has done for Denmark.

Here is my understanding of the present situation:

CRE Group are now part of  EMC.Environmental Engineering Ltd.

As I stated earlier, Project ARBRE is now shut down, but hopefully will 
restart.

Shawton Engineering now have a separate company called Biomass Engineering 
Ltd., who I do work for, and the unit in the Ballymena ECOS Millennium 
Centre is 75-100kWe gross, with 55-65 going to the building as 
required.  Fuels have included willow, spruce, poplar, sawmill bark 
strippings, pine, oak, beech and palletwood.  Biomass Engineering Ltd. have 
a 55 kWe unit at their works [couple to gas engines and a gas turbine 
combustor]and a 250 kWe downdraft which is being commissioned shortly.

Ventec is known as Waste to Energy Ltd. and they have sold a gasifier to 
Anglian Water, operating on sewage sludge for 250 kWe output and a similar 
size one to BLC.  Waste to Energy Ltd. co-operate with the University of 
Newcastle.

Northumbrian Water project is a no go as far as I know.

Compact Power, Waste Gas Technology, Rural Generation Ltd., Enniskillen 
College are operational.

The Blackwater Valley museum is a 200 kWe NFFO contract, however, the 
gasifier does not generate at 200 kWe.  Doug Williams made a posting [22nd 
March 2000 - check the archives]on a visit to the gasifier in early 2000 
and the gasifier is 80kWe, as confirmed during the visit by B9 Energy 
Biomass.  Work is ongoing to upgrade the facility to 200 kWe. Also at the 
same conference, the total project cost was quoted as £400,000, not 
£250,000.  B9 have also installed a 136 kWe unit at Sutton in England, 
which is being commissioned.

The Isle of Arran project is again Border Biofuels, taken over by 
Dynamotive, who have been declared bankrupt, although it is believed they 
will re-appear.  This was to be a pyrolysis plant of 2MWe or so.

Border Biofuels Carlisle project is also on hold.  This was to produce 
liquids for an Orenda gas turbine at 1 MWe output.

There are other interesting things going on, but details are not public 
knowledge at this time.

There's a big difference between planned and operational.  I've cleared up 
most of the UK, perhaps other list members will do the same for their home 
territory?  I would be interested to see the difference between the facts 
and the fiction.

Do your own research, etc. on any which interest you- this is all the 
''free'' information I can supply at this time.

Cordner Peacocke










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