----- Original Message -----

From: ascent@wilnetonline.net

To: Thomas Koch

Cc: CREST

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:45 AM

Subject: Re: GAS-L: A plague of criticism, any solutions?

September 10, 2002

Dear Mr Koch,

Thank you for your mail and we currently have over 100 gasifiers in regular operation with industries, for rural electrification etc.  Our current production levels are of the order of 3 to 4 gasifiers every month.  We have a number of case studies included as part of our web site but if you are unable to access the same or if you would like us to transmit these separately, please let us know.

Talking about rice husk gasifiers, we have installed about a dozen of these gasifiers during the last year.  Reference list is attached with this mail.

Relative specifications being the same should not come as a surprise as these gasifiers are in some ways a family of gasifiers with the same basic technology.

As far as technical data go, if you let us know exactly what you would like to have, we will be glad to do the needful.

With best wishes,

 

Ms Ingrid Fernandes - Sr. Manager

Ankur Scientific Energy Technologies Pvt. Ltd.,
"Ankur", Near Old Sama Jakat Naka
Baroda 390 008, India
Phones : 0265 793098/794021 * Fax : 794042
Web Site : www.ankurscientific.com

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Thomas Koch <Tk@tke.dk>

To: <ascent@wilnetonline.net>; Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm@ca.inter.net>; Laszlo Paszner <lpaszner@shaw.ca>

Cc: <Carefreeland@aol.com>; <agniesco@hd2.dot.net.in>; <stoves@crest.org>; <gasification@crest.org>; <bioenergy@crest.org>; <LINVENT@aol.com>

Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:47 PM

Subject: Re: GAS-L: A plague of criticism, any solutions?

Dear Ingrid

I just browsed through your web page.

To me it is not clear how many gasifiers you have build and how well they work.
To me it looked very much like "sales talk".
As an example:
Your FBG system has exately the same relative specification for a 40 kw and a 335 kw unit.
It is a down draft system that can handle down to 2mm particles and it produces 4 % CH4 and it have a gas washer with recirkuiation of water.
Is it possible that you could provide us with some more technical data?

Best regards

Thomas Koch




----- Original Message -----
From: <ascent@wilnetonline.net>
To: "Kevin Chisholm" <kchisholm@ca.inter.net>; "Laszlo Paszner" <lpaszner@shaw.ca>
Cc: <Carefreeland@aol.com>; <agniesco@hd2.dot.net.in>; <stoves@crest.org>; <gasification@crest.org>; <bioenergy@crest.org>; <LINVENT@aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: GAS-L: A plague of criticism, any solutions?


> Dear Sir,
>
> I am Ingrid  Fernandes, Sr. Manager, Ankur Scientific, India.  We are
> basically a Biomass Gasification company and have been in the business for a
> number of years now, making enough money not only to support ourselves but
> also to support further technology development work through our own
> resources.  Do visit our web site www.ankurscientific.com .
>
> Regards,
>
> Ingrid
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm@ca.inter.net>
> To: Laszlo Paszner <lpaszner@shaw.ca>
> Cc: <Carefreeland@aol.com>; <agniesco@hd2.dot.net.in>; <stoves@crest.org>;
> <gasification@crest.org>; <bioenergy@crest.org>; <LINVENT@aol.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:55 PM
> Subject: Re: GAS-L: A plague of criticism, any solutions?
>
>
> > Dear Dr. Paszner
> >
> > Thank you for your very interesting overview on
> > bioenergy.
> >
> > Laszlo Paszner wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > ....del...>
> > > Biomass is largely "undersold" as an alternate renewable energy source
> by
> > > the world authorities and the media.  It is lucky if it gets honorable
> > > mention among the renewable energy sources of wind, solar and tidal.
> The
> > > authorities are brainwashed by the petrochemical companies. This is so
> > > because the technologies for these energy forms are owned by the
> > > petrochemical companies, Shell, BP, Texaco, SUNCOR etc.  Promotion of
> wind,
> > > solar and tidal energy forms is safe, they do not cut into the gasoline
> > > markets.  Wide-scale promotion of wind and solar  installations for
> > > developing countries channels much needed developmental funds again to
> the
> > > petrochemical companies (you remember they own these technologies -
> bought
> > > into them quietly 5-6 years ago) leaving the developing countries
> further
> > > in debt and dependent without solving their problem (lack of energy in
> > > rural areas).  These are "passive" energy forms because they will not
> > > generate wide-spread sustainable jobs after their installation.  As a
> > > result, this power form, regardless of its renewable nature, will remain
> > > inaccessible to the poor because they are left without a
> > > dispasible  income.  Biomass growing and ethanol production are highly
> > > labor intensive (active) job creators.  Thus growing biomass (growing
> the
> > > seedlings, planting, tending and harvesting the forests) requires
> > > continuous attention and will maintain a substantial number of permanent
> > > rural jobs.  For every 50 million L/yr ethanol plant, we generate
> between
> > > 75 to 150 permanent, well paying rural jobs.  Yet, biomass is not
> promoted
> > > as the true future renewable energy source.
> > >
> > I would suggest that there is not a conspiracy by
> > multi-National Oil Companies to hold back the
> > development of biomass. I would suggest that they can
> > make more money from oil than they can make from
> > biomass, and that is the reason why they process oil.
> > It is very dificult to imagine the multi-National Oil
> > Companies saying "We can make more money on biomass,
> > but we are not going to do that, because we are oil
> > processors."
> >
> > The cruel reality seems to be that it is somewhere
> > between difficult and impossible to make money from
> > biomass energy.
> >
> >
> > > For the biomass program, fast growing and high yielding crops become
> > > important.  Comparatively speaking, trees produce 4-8 T/ha . yr biomass
> in
> > > the temperate regions, better yields (18-30 T/ha . yr) can be obtained
> with
> > > both deciduous and coniferous wood species in tropical and sub-tropical
> > > countries.  Similar or better yields can be obtained with
> sugarcane/sweet
> > > sorghum and mineral giant reed; up to 45 T/ha .yr.  Exceptionally, up to
> > > 60-75 T/ha .yr can be had with Eucalyptus species.  So by selective
> biomass
> > > cultivation the target biomass supply will become available while
> > > simultaneously also solving the world's poverty problems.
> >
> > With a ratio of about 15:1 in terms of tropical
> > eucalyptus to temperate forestry yields, if biomass
> > energy even had a chance of being economic, one would
> > see at least some biomass energy companies making money
> > from eucalyptus energy processing. Are there any "stand
> > alone biomass energy successes" anywhere in the world?
> > There may be some businesses successes because of
> > peculiar circumstances, such as waste product disposal,
> > or special incentives. The cruel reality seems to be
> > that, simply put, there is no money to be made in
> > biomass energy.
> >
> > Am I mising something here? Is there anyone making
> > "stand alone money" in biomass anywhere in the world?
> > Is it perhaps a case that biomass energy economics are
> > ruled by a Law that says "The bigger you are, the more
> > you lose?"
> >
> > Kindest regards,
> >
> > Kevin Chisholm
> > >
> >
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