Re: GAS-L: The "Hydrogen Economy": Bleak or Bright?

[JBenemann@aol.com]

piolenc@mozcom.com writes from the Philippines:

"....I can't think of a better way to control people than to force them into
 cattle-cars for any trip longer than walking distance..."

Well, in the Philippines you certainly have a case, as only a small minority 
can afford a car.  I gather you have one and want to keep it that way.   
Don't blame you.  Here in the U.S., and Europe, Japan, etc., where everyone 
drives a car, we enjoy the relaxation and peace of mind that only being stuck 
for hours in traffic can provide.  Of course, as the cars don't move faster 
than we could walking, the whole thing becomes ridiculous and freedom of 
personal transportation doesn't look so good.  So enjoy your status and 
freedom while it lasts.  We are moving beyond that, out of necessity, not 
desire.  (Actually you have this problem in Manila and other Cities too, 
perhaps not where you are).  

The best thing about biomass energy is that it provides only enough for 
frugal living, not wanton wasting. 

John Benemann

<< Subj:     Re: GAS-L:  The "Hydrogen Economy":  Bleak or Bright?
 Date:  11/21/02 11:49:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
 From:  piolenc@mozcom.com (Marc de Piolenc)
 Reply-to:  <A HREF="mailto:piolenc@reporters.net";>piolenc@reporters.net</A>
 To:    JBenemann@aol.com, gasification@crest.org (gasification)
 
 
 JBenemann@aol.com wrote:
 
 > This whole H2 car business was started a few years back by Shell in Europe,
 > as a counter to the arguments by the Greens in Germany (in particular) who
 > wanted to start moving away from the two plus cars in every garage model 
to a
 > more public mode of transportation.  Which would be bad for oil companies,
 > car companies, and all those benefiting from our current system. 
 
 ..and bad for all those who value their personal freedom to travel. I
 can't think of a better way to control people than to force them into
 cattle-cars for any trip longer than walking distance. Central control
 over goods transport is an even more powerful means of control. This is
 exemplified here in the Philippines, where an oligopoly of shipping
 firms controls interisland freight and systematically prevents farm
 products from Mindanao (for instance) from reaching lucrative markets in
 Luzon.
 
 Best,
 Marc de Piolenc
 Iligan City, Philippines
 
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