Re: GAS-L: Re: vegetable oil for running diesel engines

[Peter Singfield <snkm@btl.net>]

Dear Mark;

At 12:37 PM 11/24/2002 +0800, you wrote:
>
>
>Peter Singfield wrote:
>
>> Their [India's] palm oil "plantations" being extremely productive.
>
>The palm oil champions at present, as I understand it, are the
>Indonesians. All the food-grade palm oil on the market here in the
>southern Philippines is from Indonesia.
>

Central and South America are also forging ahead -- Brazil now has over
58,000 hectares of African Oil palm plantations. As does Honduras,
Guatemala and Nicaragua -- that I am sure of.

Belize has none as of yet -- but I believe we should start!

>> The "trash" left after oil extraction from coconut is of high protein and a
>> "food". Both for humans and livestock.
>
>Sorry to be a pedant, but I just want to emphasize that coconut oil is
>not palm oil. [I know you know this, Peter - I just recall how confused
>I was before I began living in the Tropics so I'm sticking my oar in the
>water for the benefit of other readers.] Palm oil is from the soft outer
>parts of the fruit of the oil palm, Eleias guineensis. Palm kernel oil,
>from the same fruit's pit, is almost a direct substitute for coconut oil
>in most of its applications. Palm oils are slowly biting into the
>coconut oil market internationally.
>

Palm oil is supreme for the margarine market at present -- mind you --
everything hydrogenated. That is high temperature oil processing --
purifying with hydrogen -- 

>> Jatropha yields no such bounty. Palm "trash" is a more difficult "food" as
>> well.
>
>The meal from the pit of the oil palm fruit can be used as fodder after
>oil extraction, according to Purseglove. 

Yes -- but mixed with other feeds. Here I am feeding pigs, chicken, turkey
with "only" coconut "trash" (expressor meal) and they are thriving
extremely well.

I also personally munch a lot.

>The coconut has so many uses
>it's not possible to catalogue them in an email message of reasonable
>length. 

I am specifically concerned with it's medicinal properties -- again --
starting at:

http://www.apcc.org.sg/special.htm

Very technical -- but especially interesting

and a ton more links -- 

http://www.coconut-info.com/links.htm

This is a new "market" and is growing fast!

>The problem with current technique for coconut oil extraction is
>that it's based on copra (dried coconut meat) as the feedstock, which
>essentially destroys all the residual value of the fruit in extracting
>oil...whose market value is dropping.

All to true -- that is why I use a large flat plate drier. We grate fresh
coconut and dry in 30 minutes or less.

The idea comes from the Australians. Check out:

http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/

The model I have built is different in air vents -- etc -- and has a 19 ft
chimney.

Plate size is 32 in wide by 12 feet long.

This system of operation is slow and labor intensive. One plate drier dries
enough gratings for producing 20 liters (by machine expressing) per 8 hour
shift.

The expressor does the total out put of one plate dryer in 45 minutes.

The trash/meal so produced is a good -- healthy -- high protein "food" and
could go a long way to alleviating food deprivation in appropriate areas.

Here I use it for animal feed. 

>
>[The good news here in the Philippines, from a conversation I had
>yesterday with U/sec of Agriculture Bolante, is that the gov. has
>finally awakened to the need to emphasize products other than coconut
>oil. With any luck and a little sense, coconut oil will soon be
>recognized as a bye-product, with more valuable products taking priority
>for processing.]

You have a kind of pioneer in marketing coconut product in the Philippines:

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/

Much information there -- 

Peter Singfield / Belize

>
>Marc de Piolenc
>Iligan City
>

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