Re: GBlist: Are Green Dairy Barns Qualified as Greenbuildings?

["John Salmen" <terrain@cow-net.com>]

The irony here is that a 40 cow farm was considered up to this point to be a
profitable family farm - if combined with one or two other farmlike
activities.

The current growing scenario is a quick  'downsizing' to one or two dairy
farms per state (or province) and for sure there is little family attached
to such operations. Within such operations there will be little problem with
information exchange about, or capitalisation on,  whatever device is
currently offering the best 'capital' exchange. We WILL have milk produced
under the most cost effective scenario ( if it benefits the planet in some
environmental manner we should consider that effect to be simply a
coincidence)  - similar to Wal-marts significant leadership in both
daylighting and sales originating from daylighting.

remember that the benefit of such inspired savings may NOT be considered
environmental if they become dividend payments to someone who is heating an
outdoor pool in Fairbanks, Alaska in the winter.

cynically yours
john

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From: Carmine Vasile <gfx-ch@email.msn.com>
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Subject: GBlist: Are Green Dairy Barns Qualified as Greenbuildings?


>     If so, the excerpts below from an E-mail received a few days ago may
be
> of interest to "Green" Barn Designers  ----- since PA Dairy Inspectors
> require a 40-cow dairy to dump140 gallons/day of water @ 150*F, minimum.
>
>     Does anyone know how many cows there are worldwide and if this is a
> common practice?
>
>     In the dairy operation described below, over 32.8 kWh-thermal per day
go
> down the drain so it's cost-effective to recycle 70% ---- or about
> 8,400kWh/yr ---- & save $713/yr @ 8.5-cents/kWh, for an average cold water
> temperature of 55*F.
>
>
>     ...."here is some more info on the milkhouse situation, at least here
in
> northern Pa. Many 40 to 100 cow dairies which can be characterized as
"small
> operations". Milking is twice a day, year round, although as the number of
> cows increases, some dairies go to milking 3x a day.
>
> In my neighbor's low budget 40 cow dairy, the 4 milkers(contraptions that
> suck milk out of the cows) hang on a rack that is suspended in a stainless
> washtub. There is a controller made by SURGE (a company that makes dairy
> equipment) that controlls the wash and rinse cycle and dispenses cleaning
> chemicals. There is a solenoid controlled valve on the bottom outlet of
the
> wash tub that opens and closes the drain on the bottom outlet of the tub
> which in his case dumps onto the floor and runs to a floor drain. Not all
> dairies use the floor like this.
>
> Each washing  in this dairyuses a total of 70 gallons of hot water.
Dairies
> with more cows , which have longer pipelines to wash, use more hot water.
> The dairy inspector assesses the water temp by measuring the temp of the
> wash water as it LEAVES the drain on the bottom of the wash tub. The water
> MUST be at least 150 deg. F!!! and down the tube it goes" .....
>
>     The situation described above uses an electric water heater, but
others
> in the neighborhood use natural gas, propane and fuel oil.
>
> =====================================================
> > Dr. Carmine Vasile, CEO
> > WaterFilm Energy Inc.,
> > P.O. Box 128
> > Medford, NY 11763
> > Voice: 631-758-6271 [Fax: 631-758-0438]
> > Email: gfx-ch@msn.com Web: http://oikos.com/gfx/
> > =====================================================
>
>
>
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