Re: GBlist: Whose Globalization?

["chalice" <chalice@wco.com>]

Hi Racheli,

"We" is most of us who enjoy the material benefits of corporate society
(built on widespread environmental destruction and human misery), which I
would venture to say includes just about everyone on this list.

You evidently haven't been following the conversation... But basically it's
the old argument: Until we "fix" ourselves (our neuroses--the corporal,
spiritual, natural DISCONNECT most of US live with on a daily basis), no
societal remedies, such as laws (for nuclear disarmament, for example), are
going to be lasting. BUT, HEY, I'm an activist, so I am working CONSTANTLY
for those social remedies. And I'm sharing with the list what I have
discovered along the way that addresses the first issue: fixing the self.

Cheers!

-----Original Message-----
From: Racheli and John <jnpalme@ibm.net>
To: Greenbuilding <greenbuilding@crest.org>
Date: Saturday, May 27, 2000 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: GBlist: Whose Globalization?


>** Reply to note from "chalice" <chalice@wco.com> Sat, 27 May 2000
08:01:21 -0700
>From Racheli
>
>Chalice wrote, in part:
>
>> In the city, clever creatures that we are, we live almost exclusively in
our
>> HEADS--without ever really knowing it. We live to the RHYTHM OF MACHINES.
>> Concrete and commerce surround us on all sides. We spend most of our time
>> working and watching TV.
>
>Who is "we"?
>I barely watch TV, and as to working - shouldn't you differentiate
>in regards to what kind of work people do?  You seem to make such sweeping
>generalizations.
>
>
>> I conclude more than ever that connecting with our natural selves by
>> spending significant time in nature, such as in a temperate rainforest,
IS
>> the closest thing we'll come to a panacea for our personal neuroses, and,
by
>> extension, for the ills of our society.
>
>I haven't noticed that people who spend much time in the "forest" are
>necessarily better at resolving conflict; treating other people well,
>etc.  It seems that just as often they are hung up on having their egos
>stroked, and whatnot.
>In addition, how is being in the forest going to help eliminate most of
>society's ills?  Will nuclear weapons disappear on their
>own while all of us gazed at some magnificant trees, or how exactly
>does it work???
>Besides, if all 6 billion of us stepped into the forest, what will be left
of it?
>
>R.
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