Re: [GBlist] cistern and harmful additives in concrete

["Steven Shepard" <sbtdesigns@earthlink.net>]

I know in Texas, these old residential passive septic systems are no longer
allowed.  Particularly on lots of one acre or less.  The aerobic, active
systems are now mandatory.  These systems are miniature waste treatment
plants with very particular operations that require inspection once a year.
One of their characteristics are they contain a bubble pump which must
operate twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week.  The TNRCC will not
allow us to automate or solarize the operation of this pump for energy
efficiency and have by law burdened the homeowner and taxpayer with an
electric bill that must be paid on this system.

It is an excellent example of industry, utilities and the government being
in bed with one another.

SBT Designs
25840 IH-10 West #1
Boerne, Texas 78006
210-698-7109
FAX: 210-698-7147
www.sbtdesigns.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Bicknese" <ralph.bicknese@christnerinc.com>
To: "Robert Jordan" <rwjordan@charter.net>; <greenbuilding@crest.org>;
"Sacie H Lambertson" <dlambert@grasshoppernet.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: [GBlist] cistern and harmful additives in concrete


> Concrete cracks despite our best efforts to prevent it.  Septic tanks
often
> do leak sooner or later.  We rarely notice it because septic tanks are
> usually below grade. Besides, the leach fields are constantly "leaking"
the
> effluent (partially processed in the septic tank) into the soil.
>
> Cheers,
> Ralph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Jordan [mailto:rwjordan@charter.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 6:50 AM
> To: greenbuilding@crest.org; Sacie H Lambertson
> Subject: Re: [GBlist] cistern and harmful additives in concrete
>
>
> It is not logical that they are likely to crack.  You mean that the
millions
> of septic tanks (what you are going to use, right) are cacked and leaking?
> Couldn't you waterproof it with Tuff n Dri?  They probably wouldn't
approve
> it for food grade use, but Thoroseal probably wouldn't either.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sacie H Lambertson" <dlambert@grasshoppernet.com>
> To: <greenbuilding@crest.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:18 PM
> Subject: [GBlist] cistern and harmful additives in concrete
>
>
> > Can someone tell me if it is harmful to put an air entrainment (sp?)
> > product in the concrete mix for a potable water cistern?  Sacie
Lambertson
> > Any comments on Ralph's thought that adding a waterproofing additive is
> > rather useless since the cistern is going to crack anyway?  Frankly, the
> > idea of getting down every few years into a couple of large concrete
tanks
> > that are only 5 feet tall to seal with Thoroseal, is most unappealing.
> >
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