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Greenbuilding Archive for October 2001
221 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:26:03 2002

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Affordability is a design issue that is addressed principally by size of =
home and degree of finishing. Typically this is not a major issue as =
greenbuilding is affordable within most conventional budgets with a few =
tradeoffs, i.e. if you are willing to work within the low end of a =
typical size of home you can trade off the extra footage for the cost of =
building more responsibly. By building more responsibly I mean that you =
can work with materials that will be both healthier and will have more =
quality in terms of maintenance and performance. So in developing an =
initial design you should look for a design that is focused both on =
conserving and 'maximizing'  a minimal use of space. This is one of the =
values that you will want to express and see developed by someone you =
approach to work with you. Practically this means developing plans that =
eliminate a lot of hallways and a lot of trim.

Energy conservation is approached in a two-fold way. Initially by a =
conservation of space and then by both a sensitivity to site and a =
consideration of the technology available. Site development is both =
orienting to solar and microclime. Technology (HVAC) typically is an =
expense that can often only be realized as a long term investment. If =
you are in a position to amortize that investment over time then you can =
possibly gain by being environmentally progressive. If not then you have =
to work out the best compromise. Typically I focus on maximum insulation =
and protective envelope with ventilation and heat recovery. This is the =
best initial cost scenario to build from as it is independent of heat =
'systems'., i.e. if you spend your money on insulation and then on =
recovering all the latent heat that living in a home involves - then you =
are in a position to develop both passive and active systems of heating =
and cooling with the maximum benefit and in a minimal way. Most HVAC =
systems I find are overkill for a well insulated and ventilated home. I =
would rather see someone focus on basic high insulation and heat =
recovery and then spend a little on alternate solar systems - I think =
this is far more progressive than a large investment in geothermal or =
other high capital heating/cooling systems.

What you ask about in terms of lumber specs and insulation and finishing =
products is project and design specific. Projects can include no wood =
products, or 'engineered wood products' or a myriad of other things. I =
find those questions to be site specific in a way depending on climatic =
and social conditions (everything from soil to weather conditions to =
what the local labour base is able to do - local labour expertise is a =
lesson I've just learned in a hard way).=20

These are very generalized answers that I know will not satisfy but as =
you develop your plans and ideas I hope you will find this list =
responsive to helping you, as it typically has been quite good.

good luck with your home and please keep asking all the basic question =
as you will find a good level of direct expertise on the forum.

John Salmen
TERRAIN E.D.S.



> I am in the beginning stages of designing a new home. However, none of
> the
> people I have spoken to seem to incorporate 'green building' into
> residential building in our area (at least, no one I spoke to). I have
> been reading much on my own, but have lost perspective on realistic
> expectations of what we can incorporate.  Although I have been =
following
> this e-mail list for months, I cannot carry out sustainable design
> without specs for the right names of the materials.
> 1. HVAC system (active & passive solar energy, geothermal pumps, etc.)
> 2. Lumber specs
> 3. Insulation products
> 4. Specifications of finishing products (in particular the glues and
> other chemicals used)
>
> For those of you who have expressed discouragement that no one cares
> about the environment as they go forth and build, you have an
> opportunity to influence this family if only I can get the details
> necessary for construction. Any direction or resources are appreciated
> (just don't tell me to read another book - I've beeen to local and
> university libraries!)
> Thanks.
> Joan


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Joan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I regret to say that I've been&nbsp;ignoring the 
list for a while but as a long time contributor feel a bit apologetic for the 
tone that it has taken. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My first response is to look harder for 
someone&nbsp;local, but also to take a bit of time to develop a perspective on 
the approach that you want to take. There are various levels involved in 
building responsibly and you need to define what is appropriate for you as a set 
of values that you can communicate well and clearly to all the parties that will 
be involved in your home. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From your list I can determine that you are 
interested in building with some degree of energy efficiency and in a way that 
will result in a building that will not affect your families health adversely - 
and that you want to do this in a way that is 'realistic', meaning both 
affordable and comfortable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Affordability is a design issue that is addressed 
principally by size of home and degree of finishing. Typically this is not a 
major issue as greenbuilding is affordable within most conventional budgets with 
a few tradeoffs, i.e. if you are willing to work within the low end of a typical 
size of home you can trade off the extra footage for the cost of building more 
responsibly. By building more responsibly I mean that you can work with 
materials that will be both healthier and will have more quality in terms of 
maintenance and performance. So in developing an initial design you should look 
for a design that is focused both on conserving and 'maximizing'&nbsp;&nbsp;a 
minimal use&nbsp;of space. This is one of the values that you will want to 
express and see developed by someone you approach to work with you. Practically 
this means developing plans that eliminate a lot of hallways and a lot of 
trim.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Energy conservation is approached in a two-fold 
way. Initially by a conservation of space and then by both a sensitivity to site 
and a consideration of the technology available. Site development is both 
orienting to solar and microclime. Technology (HVAC) typically is an expense 
that can often only be realized as a long term investment. If you are in a 
position to amortize that investment over time then you can possibly gain by 
being environmentally progressive. If not then you have to work out the best 
compromise. Typically I focus on maximum insulation and protective envelope with 
ventilation and heat recovery. This is the best initial cost scenario to build 
from as it is independent of heat 'systems'., i.e. if you spend your money on 
insulation and then on recovering all the latent heat that living in a home 
involves - then you are in a position to develop both passive and active systems 
of heating and cooling with the maximum benefit and in a minimal way. Most HVAC 
systems I find are overkill for a well insulated and ventilated home. I would 
rather see someone focus on basic high insulation and heat recovery and then 
spend a little on alternate solar systems - I think this is far more progressive 
than a large investment in geothermal or other high capital 
heating/cooling&nbsp;systems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What you ask about in terms of lumber specs and 
insulation and finishing products is project and design specific. Projects can 
include no wood products, or 'engineered wood products' or a myriad of other 
things. I find those questions to be site specific in a way depending on 
climatic and social conditions (everything from soil to weather conditions to 
what the local labour base is able to do - local labour expertise is a lesson 
I've just learned in a hard way). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>These are very generalized answers that I know will 
not satisfy but as you develop your plans and ideas I hope you will find this 
list responsive to helping you, as it typically has been quite 
good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>good luck with your home and please keep asking all 
the basic question as you will find a good level of direct expertise on the 
forum.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Salmen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TERRAIN E.D.S.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&gt; I am in 
the beginning stages of designing a new home. However, none of<BR>&gt; 
the<BR>&gt; people I have spoken to seem to incorporate 'green building' 
into<BR>&gt; residential building in our area (at least, no one I spoke to). I 
have<BR>&gt; been reading much on my own, but have lost perspective on 
realistic<BR>&gt; expectations of what we can incorporate.&nbsp; Although I have 
been following<BR>&gt; this e-mail list for months, I cannot carry out 
sustainable design<BR>&gt; without specs for the right names of the 
materials.<BR>&gt; 1. HVAC system (active &amp; passive solar energy, geothermal 
pumps, etc.)<BR>&gt; 2. Lumber specs<BR>&gt; 3. Insulation products<BR>&gt; 4. 
Specifications of finishing products (in particular the glues and<BR>&gt; other 
chemicals used)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; For those of you who have expressed 
discouragement that no one cares<BR>&gt; about the environment as they go forth 
and build, you have an<BR>&gt; opportunity to influence this family if only I 
can get the details<BR>&gt; necessary for construction. Any direction or 
resources are appreciated<BR>&gt; (just don't tell me to read another book - 
I've beeen to local and<BR>&gt; university libraries!)<BR>&gt; Thanks.<BR>&gt; 
Joan</FONT><BR></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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