Re: [GBlist] OLDUVAI GORGE

["Robert Jordan" <rwjordan@charter.net>]

Ron,
Cheerful way to start my Sunday!  I just returned from the EEBA conference
in Orlando.   On the way down I read Paul Simon's book, 'Tapped Out' about
coming water problems.  If you think oil/electricity is about to be bad,
read this.

Looking down from 35,000 feet at night and seeing the impact that humans
have had on the land.  There was nothing we hadn't touched.  I wondered how
much oil was being consumed to keep so many unneeded lights burning.

Orlando was so surreal.  The October climate was wonderful and I longed to
stay in the balmy sub-tropics.  The tourist part was beautifully clean and
lushly landscaped.  But I also had had a great sense that something was
amiss.  I knew that the lushness was dependent on water that was being
depleted rapidly.  I knew that the ability to create the lushness was paid
for by tourist money imported into Orlando.  I knew Orlando was dependent on
energy that was being used so frivolously and will be so precious in a few
years.  And here was an economy totally dependent on tourism, one that was
devastated by the events of 9/11.  What will happen when oil becomes truly
dear?  Gasoline was only $1.11 a gallon.  I was surprised that my feeling
was one of outrage rather than one of good fortune.

It was so ironic to be attending a conference on sustainability in such an
unsustainable place.

Our agriculture and distribution system is based on oil.  There will be a
disastrous impact on our food supply.

I have often thought of finding a place to homestead for these reasons.
However,  I don't think there will be a lot of respect for property rights
and respect for others in that world.  So once the world finds I have a
productive organic garden, would I stand a chance of keeping it?

This shows how interconnected we have become, basically in the last 60
years.  One person will not be able to go off and live self sufficiently.
We have to find a common solution in a world where we have become
increasingly fragmented.
Bob Jordan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Byrd" <byrdelc@directcon.net>
To: "Greenbuilding" <<green-power@crest.org>; "H2view Forum"
<h2view@h2eco.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 8:50 PM
Subject: [GBlist] OLDUVAI GORGE


> Has anyone heard of this theory, OLDUVAI GORGE. Is it actually possible
> that the depletion of oil will have such a devastating effect on human
> life? Is this legitimate of just a fictional story?
>
> http://www.dieoff.org/page224.htm
>
> --
> Ron Byrd
> Vice President
> Sunstar Precision Energy Corporation
> http://www.specbyrd.com
> " Turn Sunlight into SPEC Energy "
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