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Greenbuilding Archive for January 2002
564 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:26:27 2002

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Re: [GBlist] Re Monster Buildings



I am reposting this as it was returned as the file size which had included the appended earlier messages was too large. Original message follows.
----- Original Message -----
To:
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [GBlist] Re Monster Buildings

John, Mary Ann, Ralph and others following this line,
 
Sarah has subtitled the book "Designing for the way we really live."  She never said we shouldn't have single purpose rooms.  She has a meditation space she uses daily.  What she said is to design for the needs of a specific client and how they live.  She has examples of formal dining spaces as well as informal spaces.
 
Her premise is that houses have gotten big and impersonal, that people bought big to impress, to have the space they thought they needed, for a variety of reasons.  Only to find that it doesn't feel like home.  She argues for building smaller and designing for what you need so that you can afford good design, good detailing and good construction.  None of her houses exceed 3000 sf and one project in WA was built as a small development on 2/3 acre of 600 to 900 sf cottages.
 
As far as the 14,070 sf IL house that I originally posted, it is represented as energy efficient, eco-friendly and environmentally friendly as well as an ALA Health House.  Green means different things to people, but those are attributes I would consider Green.
 
And as far as that house goes, I think it is a prime example of what Sarah is criticizing.  It is cavernous and overwhelming.  In spite of expensive materials, it is poorly designed and detailed.  To my eye, it looks cheap.  It looks like it was designed by someone who had little creativity but wanted to impress and the only way he could impress was to design big.  It is ironic that his firm is listed on Sarah's website, notsobig.com.
 
I looked up the Life Home on their website.  Sarah's firm did the last one.  Robert Stern designed the first, which I think was 2400sf.  The challenge put to him was to design a well designed house that was reasonably affordable.  Stern said that a house should fit like a mitten, not like a glove.  By which he meant that it should fit well, but not so tightly that it only fit one hand.
 
Bob Jordan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:28 PM
Subject: RE: [GBlist] Re Monster Buildings

A good point about additions being 'moved into' and the balance of house becoming used less. Part of the reasoning I guess is that an addition tends to become 'personalized' by the owner at the design stage and tends to reflect or serve their needs better, generally with better comfort levels (heating,lighting, etc.). A more considered space generally if the same degree of attention is given to an overall house design it tends to become easy to reduce the scale and build upon more positive things.
 
 There is a lot of ambiguity in generic large house design. Each room becomes a room to 'live in' as if someone did not know how to live - therefore master bedrooms become palatial as if one is going to spend their entire life there, ditto for the mast. bath and every other room.  I could say that this reflects an insecurity with how to best occupy a house or how to best provide for needs, not yet realized, or children's needs, etc.  Ironically people are not very different and the type of personalized space an addition represents also becomes the kind of space that guests or future owners tend to be drawn to.
 

JOHN SALMEN
TERRAIN E.D.S.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Ann Lynch [mailto:m.lynch21@gte.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:05 AM
To: greenbuilding@crest.org
Subject: [GBlist] Re Monster Buildings

I have been following this discussion and am also acquainted with the "Not So Big House" book.  I am planning to sell my "overly big" suburban house and build a "not so big" energy efficient