Re: [GBlist] Afgreenistan

["Mark Marcoplos" <marcoplos@mindspring.com>]

I read that the Rocky Mountain Institute was going to get involved in
refugee camp issues over there.

Mark

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From: "Renewable News Network" <rnn@rnn.com>
To: "Thomas M Hughes-Lampros" <tlampros@UDel.Edu>
Cc: "Greenbuilding" <greenbuilding@crest.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [GBlist] Afgreenistan


> Dear Thomas,
>
> This is a very excellent thought, but how would such a solar energy
> effort be carried out?  Who is in a position to move this initiative
> forward?  Who should we be talking to?  Who, here, has the kind of
> influence, contacts, resources, access, etc (whatever it takes) to
> make things happen?
>
> People wonder why and how oil interests effect energy developments and
> the directions that the US and the Bush Administration take regarding the
> clean green options?  Here's a practical result of Cheney meeting in
> private with oil, gas, and coal executives;  ...of Enron's top executives
> ripping off their own employees;  ...of that ilk promoting the hydrogen
> fuel cell futuristic fantasies at the expense of the clean green options.
>
> Its already been reported in the independent media that the diplomatic
> corps now being staffed up in that part of the world comes, in part, at
> least, from the ranks of the oil industry.  Instead of solar being
> developed, our worst unsustainable nightmere is being piplined down their
> throats.
>
> What now?
>
> Yours truly,
> Ross
>
> "What now, my love?"  -Bert Bacharach (?)
>
> ps. We have another perhaps minor problem in that a "simple transpired
> collector" is NOT designed to perform for direct space heating, but for
> pre-heating make-up air for furnaces and boiler systems in
> non-residential systems.  Small huts don't have furnaces.  We've lost a
> lot over the past twenty years, including the practical experience
> of innumerable community groups that adopted solar air heating space
> heating collector systems that were appropriate and actually worked.
> All that's been replaced with Federally funded non-US companies promoting
> niche applications in devious ways that have confused the expert
> consulants and ruined one of the most popular grassroots solar
> technologies of the Solar Age (1975-1985).
>
> "Nevermind."  -Rosanne Rosannadanna
>
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Thomas M Hughes-Lampros wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > The front page of the local (Gannett) newspaper recently carried a
picture
> > of two children digging in the Afghanistan desert for roots to use for
> > cooking.  Ignoring the energy content of the roots for the moment, I
> > couldn't help but notice what a sunny day it was in the picture.  It
> > occured to me that, if what people need is heat for cooking, look to an
> > available and easily convertible source: the Sun.  The effort expended
in
> > periodically rotating a solar box cooker to keep it pointed at the sun
> > would be far less, and far more sustainable, than digging in the dirt
for
> > roots.
> >
> > Furthermore, if what people need is space heat, again look to the sun.
A
> > simple transpired solar collector could provide the heat necessary for a
> > small hut, provided of course, that the hut was protected from the
winter
> > winds.
> >
> > Personally, I would like to see relief efforts provide "the pole" rather
> > than "the fish."
> >
> > Peace,
> > Tom Hughes-Lampros tlampros@udel.edu
> > Institute of Energy Conversion tel: 302.831.3523
> > University of Delaware fax: 302.831.6226
> > Wyoming Rd.
> > Newark, DE 19716
> >
> > When we turn our face to the sun,
> > we feel the power to heal the earth.
> >
> > "First they ignore you
> >    Then they laugh at you
> >         Then they fight you
> >                 Then you win"
> >
> >                      -Gandhi
> >
> > "If there is no struggle, there is no progress.
> > Power concedes nothing without a demand." -- Frederick Douglas
> >
> > "Sentiment without action is the ruin of the soul." -Edward Abbey
> >
> > Work is love made visible.  And if you cannot work with love but only
with
> > distaste, it is better that you should leave your work and sit at the
gate
> > of the temple and take alms of those who work with joy.
> >   -- Kahlil Gibran
> >
> >
> >
> >
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