Re: [GBlist] Afgreenistan

["michael" <compostnow@telus.net>]

How else would they get at the oil Ralph?
They obviously didn't want/nor expect such a large calamity to happen,
but on the other hand they don't really care about such small numbers of
people compared to the large scale gain the stand to make,
the amounts of oil are tremendous on the scale of oil left on the planet.
Since this is green builidng, we can cross lines to green government and
green health that is macro green building of a country.
The american government run now by that texan guy is the photo-negative of
anything green (except for his personal "homestead" apparently?).
The american government may not have known exact specifics, but they may, it
doesn't really matter. They were only waiting for an opportunity...some form
of terrorist attack...they got it at a small loss considering the reflex of
american military action that not only guarantees oil for maybe evern a few
more decades but pulls many of the "club" out of recession....most
american's are great...few great americans have the power....economists and
green builders must learn to subtract...with every forest that falls...with
every oil spill...with each new cancer patient diagnosed...with every
nuclear accident...the GNP goes up!? from the macro green builders
(governments and corporations) to the micro greenbuilders (us blue colar
proles) who just want to live simply and learn each day we must find our own
"resolve" even if it goes against the main flow for the tide is about to
change :)


> Paul:
>
> You are suggesting the US Government knew what Bin Laden and the Taliban
> were up to and let it happen.  That the US Govt. let thousands of people
be
> killed and risked the crippling of our transportation structure and
economy.
> You have also suggested this is "government complicity or treasonous
> failure".  I will not glorify those suggestions with further response.  If
I
> did respond further my responses would not be appropriate for the subject
of
> this forum, nor would they be likely to be fit for print on any forum.
>
> Ralph Bicknese
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul [mailto:webmaster@globalcircle.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:51 PM
> To: Ralph Bicknese; Susannah; Green Building
> Subject: RE: [GBlist] Afgreenistan
>
>
> People who watch too much TV seem to think Afghanistan attacked the WTC
and
> St.George is Compassionate. Of course, they did not. The named terrorists
> were Saudi and Egyptian, and their money came from Pakistan and elsewhere.
> We all know by now that the war was planned and threatened at least by
> August, before any WTC attack, and we know Taliban was told to accept our
> carpet of gold or be buried under a carpet of bombs. Besides, if Bin Laden
> and Taliban was the target, what on earth are they doing now trying to run
> their country with a puppet government, and why is the US ambassador an
oil
> company man? And why the billion$ for US military buildup in NINE
> surrounding countries? All for Bin Laden?  Think. And if the FBI knew
> within hours who all their accomplices were, why didn't they pick them up
> before it happened? And why didn't they have jets in the air to challenge
> them as soon as radar told them four flights were way off course at the
> same time, at least around this country's most obvious terrorist targets?
> The only argument left now is whether it was government complicity or
> treasonous failure to protect this country. And the evidence is everywhere
> you look.
>
> --paul, webmaster http://globalcircle.net
> peace and liberty, sustainability and justice
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 1/23/02 at 5:04 PM Ralph Bicknese wrote:
>
> >Please lets not distort the reasons for our current effort in
Afghanistan.
> >On Sept 11 terrorists supported and sponsored by the government of
> >Afghanistan committed an act of war and murdered thousands of innocent
> >civilians (from numerous countries) on American soil.  They hijacked 4
> >civilian aircraft, occupied by civilians and crashed 2 into the World
> Trade
> >Center in an attempt to murder over 40,000 civilians, crashed one into
the
> >countries symbolic if not actual center of our military power, would have
> >probably crashed it into the White House had they been able to, and brave
> >and now dead citizens foiled the attempt to crash the fourth into who
> knows
> >where. We have learned a very hard and bitter lesson terrorism must not
> >continue virtually unchecked.
> >
> >Do not insult us by saying we are fighting these murderous acts because
of
> >this country's thirst for oil (no matter how flawed our energy policy
> might
> >otherwise be).
> >
> >Ralph Bicknese
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Susannah [mailto:susannah@cyber-dyne.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:33 PM
> >To: Green Building
> >Subject: Re: [GBlist] Afgreenistan
> >
> >The reason we are at war in Afghanistan is that there are huge amounts of
> >oil north of Afghanistan, in Central Asia, and we want a route to get
that
> >oil to ocean-going ships -- without going through Iran or Russia.
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> >
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