Re: [pvusers] Re: TOU/Re: [pvusers] Introduction (fwd)

[Ron Byrd <byrdelc@directcon.net>]

Great to here about your interest in EV's. The whole thing, PV and EV is quit a
statement.

Sherry Boschert wrote:

> Your description of TOU metering fits with my understanding of it, too. I
> might add that I spoke with our utility (PG&E) yesterday because we had
> requested TOU metering months ago. (They lost our paperwork.) The
> interesting thing is that he said that 3 years ago, when we put solar panels
> on our home in San Francisco, a couple of hundred PG&E customers had TOU
> metering. Now more than 1,500 do.
>
> One other note: We started leasing an electric car (the Ford Think) in Feb.,
> and TOU metering is required for electric vehicle owners, I was told. In
> this case, PG&E covers the cost instead of charging the $277 to install the
> special meter. We also installed a timer, so that the car charges between
> midnight and 6 a.m., when electricity will cost us around 4 cents per kwh
> between May to October. And, like you said, our solar panels will be
> producing electricity in peak hours later in the day for which we'll be
> credited at a rate of something like 32 cents/kwh. (The rate schedule
> changes to more of a flat rate during the winter months.)
>
> The electricity we generate is replacing not only electricity we would have
> purchased for the house but gasoline for the car. Gas tends to be more
> expensive than electricity (I think), so we'll be recouping our investment
> in the solar panels even faster. Not to mention, driving pollution-free.
>
> Sherry Boschert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Renewable News Network" <rnn@rnn.com>
> To: <pvusers@crest.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 4:42 PM
> Subject: [pvusers] Re: TOU/Re: [pvusers] Introduction (fwd)
>
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:40:18 -0400
> > From: Renewable News Network <rnn@rnn.com>
> > To: Don <unixsysadm@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: TOU/Re: [pvusers] Introduction
> >
> > I get it.  The TOU does not have any direct or necessary connection
> > with the demand side solar grid-integrated system, which is on your roof.
> > And yet, the billing arrangement will benefit you because you'll get a
> > higher compensation or return for the solar electric investment.  Cool.
> >
> >
> > "'I see,' said the blind man.  (But he didn't see at all.)"
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Don wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > I'm a newbie at some of this but here is how I understand
> > > Time Of Use Metering ( TOU(M?) ).
> > >
> > > With Time Of Use Metering we are charged a different amount
> > > depending on the time of day & time of year.  What the
> > > utility company is trying to do is to encourage its customers
> > > to conserve energy between the hours of 12:00 and 18:00,
> > > particulary in the summer months.  So during that peak period
> > > we would get charged substatially more for electricity.  The
> > > off peak periods we get charged substatially less.  For this
> > > to work in our favor we need to be net producers ( or break even )
> > > during the peak period.  Then the utility will be buying from us
> > > at .32 cents / KWh.  We can buy from them at night at .075 cents
> > > per hour.  So very roughly for every excess KWh we can produce
> > > during peak periods, we can get back 4.5 KWh at off peak periods.
> > >
> > > There is a special meter that the utility needs to install at
> > > a one time charge of $266.  I don't know how they go about
> > > monitoring the usage by hour.  I believe we can settle the
> > > account for electricity on an annual basis.  If we owe money
> > > we pay then.  If we are in the plus column then the utility
> > > company keeps it.
> > >
> > > This is how it has been explained to me.  Hopefully we got the
> > > whole story.
> > >
> > > Best Regards, Don
> > > =======================================================================
> > > --- Renewable News Network <rnn@rnn.com> wrote:
> > > > Congrats!
> > > >
> > > > What does TOU metering mean in your instance?  Are you informed via
> > > > print out as to your use pattern, are you benefiting from a variable
> > > > rate, depending on the time of use your system displaces grid supply
> > > > or backfeeds solar power into the grid?  Also, is there any remote
> > > > electronic metering involved.  The value of distributed solar
> > > > generated electricity on a hot July afternoon could be much greater
> > > > than the average per Kw residential rate.  -ross@rnn.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Don wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought I'd introduce myself as I'm new to this list.  I live in
> > > > > California in the Bay Area I've been interested in PV for a few
> years
> > > > > and finally took the plunge.  I'm in the process of having a 2.4 KW
> > > > > system installed and directly connected to the grid, with no
> > > > batteries.
> > > > > The solar panels are on the roof and am anxiously awaiting the
> > > > company
> > > > > to send the electrician & PG&E so we can start using the new system!
> > > > > We decided to take the extra step and go with TOU metering.  The
> > > > dream
> > > > > is nearly realized.  Woohoo!
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,  Don
> > > > >
> > > > >
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