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| Stoves Archive for January 2001 |
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| 54 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:30:30 2002 |
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Re: Right actions, wrong reasons???
Dear Tom
I know you are a sceptic about the hoopla that goes on and on about
global warming. Scepticism is useful if one could produce evidence to
the contrary. When we are talking about future alas evidence is
difficult to produce. Thus it is useful to present facts, talk about
their possible influences for the future and pose questions.
What are the facts?
One cannot deny the fact that gases like
carbondioxide, methane etc. absorb infrared radiation but are
transparent to radiation at other wavelengths. It seems also clear
that the burning of carbon based fuels (almost all our energy needs
are met by such fuels) will produce great deal of carbondioxide which
winds up in the atmosphere. Thus the percentage of carbondioxide in
the atmosphere can be expected to increase. Thus more solar radiation
that is incident on the earth gets trapped in the region close to the
earth. Thus it is resonable to expect that the earth's temperature
will increase.
The possible influence of such warming has been calculated on the
basis of elaborate computer models. We can distinguish three groups
of people among the commentators on the results obtained from these
models. (i) The believers; (ii) The non-believers; and (iii) The
couldn't care less crowd (which probably forms the bulk of the
population of this world!) Depending on your taste you can either
compare this to the traditonal religious arguments or to the
most recent exciting saga of Gerge W.Bush vs Al Gore. Luckily the
Supreme Court of the US intervened and produced a result in the
second case. There seems to be no equivalent institution to settle
the dispute among the categories (i) and (ii) above for the present
discussion.
I put you in the Category (ii) above. Your argument appears to be
that the category (i) do not know what they are talking about. You
are probably right about the "green" politicians. But I am sorry that
the same thing cannot be said about those who work with models. The
description they provide of the models, the inputs they use and the
outputs they obtain are all there out in the open if you care to wade
through the mountain of literature that has been produced on the
subject.While I concede that I've not done the complete wading, I am
satisfied that I have done tons more than glancing the customary news
magazine articles.
Your principle argument appears that there is a natural variation
in the climate. For example you have spoken about the ice age some
8000 years back. Maybe one could expect the Arctic ice to melt and
switch the gulf stream off and Northern Europe may have to contend
with another ice age. As a matter of fact a former Ph.D. student of
mine who works at the Medium Range Weather Forecasting Institute
at Reading in England several years back working with a model came up
with a scenario which covered entire area of Ireland with ice!
Needless to say he was laughed out of court including by his dear
wife. But the point I'm making is that the Arctic Ice is indeed
melting and its consequences are not yet felt here. It is not
unreasonable to attribute this to the global warming.
The other argument I have heard in this connection - not from you, as
far as my memory goes - that the meteorologists do not get the 5 day
weather forecasting right on so many occasions. How can one believe
about what is going to happen 50 to 100 years from now? Well the
believers say that they are talking about averages not instantaneous
chasnges involved in weather predictions over the five day periods.
Another contentious question concerns the life time of carbondioxide
in the atmosphere. There are the aerosols that seem to react with CO2
and thus reduce its quantity over a period of time. Some CO2 will be
taken up by the oceans - this however may not be a blessing either.
There is evidence of destruction of coral reefs and the effect of
this on fish population doesn't seem to have been assessed as yet.
The major area where there seems to be a great deal of argument is
the geographical variation in the warming effect. And even more
serious is the question of distribution of rainfall around the world.
In this connection there will be higher evaporation from water bodies
and water vapour is yet another green house gas. Thus the actual
warming will be higher than what could be expected from just CO2.
Of course there is the old adage about computer modeling - garbage in
and garbage out! There is always the question of completeness and the
accuracy of the input data. People are constantly working to improve
matters in this regard. But of course there is the counter argument
especially in this group by Harry Parker that these characters are
draining public resources in the name of improving prediction from
their models.
I really do not see why we should not take precautionary measures.
While you work on renewables, according to you the economic reasons
are imperative. I regret to say that I concur with those who refer to
economics as that "dismal science". If it were just economics the oil
companies will say that there is plenty more oil if you are willing
to pay for it. That is precisely the argument of the aficianados of
the renewables.
In my view it is not sufficient to press for renewables. It is not
sufficient to push for conservation of energy through more efficient
technologies. There needs to be a reduction in the end uses of
energy. Things can go haywire if everybody in this world adopts the
American way. That seems to be the driving principle behind the
globalization of economies. Maybe the global warming is not the only
reason for reducing the use of fossil fuels. But I do not agree that
it is the wrong reason for pushing the renewables, conservation and
more modest styles of living.
Prasad
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