Re: Well, I can't interpret what I got back - Posting to List

[Tom Miles <tmiles@trmiles.com>]

Ron,

Thank you for pointing out the archived copy of Crispin's message. Damian 
Kostiuk is now the Research & Communications Specialist for the Renewable 
Energy Policy Project who is handling the technical management of the 
bioenergy lists. I'm sure that Damian would like to edit the html version 
of Crispin's message so that the table is readable on the archives. He is 
reading in copy and no doubt will have time while he is bored on Christmas 
day. :-)

We are preparing the capability of posting items like this (e.g. data, 
graphics, electronic preprints of articles for review) directly to the 
REPP/CREST site. That way individuals can download or read them without 
suffocating their internet pipes.

Meanwhile it's all done with kindness.

Peace and Joy

Tom


At 12:04 PM 12/24/2001 -0700, Ron Larson wrote:
>Let me add a bit more to this "saga".
>
>1.  I like all of Tom Miles answers.  We all owe a big thanks to Tom for his
>thankless task to keep us up and operating.
>
>2.  We have only about 10 persons listed as subscribers to "stoves-digest",
>while about 225 of us are subscribers to
>"stoves.  I am one of the few people getting both - done hoping to be able
>to spot problems as a list coordinator, and hoping to find things more
>easily.  However, I almost never read the "digest" version of events - and I
>presume most "stoves" readers will  not understand the issue raised by
>Crispin.
>
>3.  The "stoves-digest" members get many fewer messages per week.  But this
>is a case where the value of the "digest" is negative.  "Digest" members got
>nothing useful - whereas Crispin's very helpful material came through
>perfectly to all of us on "stoves".  Hopefully something can be done by
>"CREST" to solve this formatting problem for "digest" subscribers  (Tom?).
>
>4.  To everyone, I recommend also the web location that Tom mentioned, which
>further specifying for Crispin's message (the 76th this month) is:
>http://www.crest.org/discussion/stoves/200112/msg00076.html
>- and you will see that the formatting seems perfect there also.
>
>5.  My recommendations for Crispin and others on the "digest" - is to be
>prepared to go to the web-site to see a good version - or to switch over to
>"stoves" - at least until the "digest" problem is fixed.
>
>6.  ps.  I am surprised that Crispin was able to post to "stoves".  In the
>past, "digest" members only got their messages sent to that short list.  We
>are making progress.
>
>Ron
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tom Miles <tmiles@trmiles.com>
>To: Crispin <crispin@newdawn.sz>; Stoves <stoves@crest.org>
>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 9:12 AM
>Subject: Re: Well, I can't interpret what I got back - Posting to List
>
>
> > Crispin,
> >
> > Your html file came to me as one of the list moderators, even the HTML
>file
> > was disjointed. Send it to me at tmiles@trmiles.com and Alex English at
> > english@adan.kingston.net and we will post it on the Stoves web page.
> > (We're in the process of migrating the Stoves pages, which Alex has
> > maintained, to the CREST server.)
> >
> > We don't encourage posting files to the list. That's one way we can
> > minimize viruses and not  penalize folks with limited bandwidth. This
>list,
> > in particular has some subscribers with slow connections.
> >
> > Thanks for your cooperation.
> >
> > Happy Holidays
> >
> > Tom Miles
> > Bioenergy Lists Administrator
> >
> > At 11:44 PM 12/23/2001 +0200, Crispin wrote:
> > >Dear Stovers
> > >
> > >I am not actually subscribed to the stoves list, I only get the Stoves
> > >Digest.  There must be another list that people are connected to where
>you
> > >get the individual messages with attachments and formatting because
>people
> > >refer to that.
> > >
> > >Everything that I receive is in plain text and all formatting is lost.
> > >
> > >I just sent in the stove test report which was pasted into an email in an
> > >HTML format.  What I got back was unuseable.  I don't know if anyone else
> > >will receive a useful layout.
> > >
> > >I copied out the html bits of what was in the Stove Digest and pasted
>that
> > >into a text file and opened that with IE5.  I it was formatted reasonably
> > >but certainly hard to read.
> > >
> > >How does one send in a spreadsheet-sourced message to this group?
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >Crispin
> > >
> > >
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T R Miles, TCI                  Tel 503-292-0107
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