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Stoves Archive for January 2002
240 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:31:23 2002

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Re: "Worlds Most Efficient Stove" Contest



Dear Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: Dean Still
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: "Worlds Most Efficient Stove" Contest

Dear Kevin,
 
Can I propose an alternative contest?
 
Sure can!! :-)
 
1: Fastest time to boil
2: Most efficient
3: Lowest cost stove to boil 1 litre in 5 minutes
4: Worlds fastest 8" diameter pancake cooker.
5: Worlds fastest wood fueled teapot.
6: etc..
are all very different alternative contests.
 
Seeing who can boil one litre the fastest tests what stove can blow up all the wood at once, which seems to have less than optimal correlation to the real world of fuel efficient cooking.
 
I fully agree that "the fastest stove contest" would be unlikely to give an optimal or practical stove. However, I feel that with the warm summer months coming, and with the need for summertime entertainment, there would be lots of opportunity for fundamental advancements on heat transfer and rapid and complete combustion to be implemented and proven. I am sure that we will be all very impressed at the clever ways that people come up with to attempt to win their $100. The important thing will be the practical fallout which wil result from the "basic research" that flows from such a focused contest.
 
But, I love the idea of a contest and Aprovecho would throw in another hundred dollars to the builder of the stove that:
 
Great!! Perhaps you (and others) could propose other specific Contests that would lead to advancements in areas of particular interest.
 
Using a twelve inch in diameter pot and ten litres of water can achieve 50% fuel efficiency figuring 8600 BTU's per pound of wood, 1005 BTU's per pound of water boiled away, when burning two pounds of wood. As of today, the Rocket could edge into the 40%s with fancy skirts so I know that we wouldn't win this prize.
 
OK... no problem!! Make up the contest rules for a particular contest, so that you have a better chance of winning it!! :-)
 
Be worth a hundred to see who could. No fans, made from vernacular materials, cost less than ten dollars.
 
How about it?
 
May I suggest that, in general, there be as few restrictions as possible, to leave the door open for the maximum in creative activity? The contests need not be directly practical.... they could be considered "R&D projects". However,  there should be some basic rules, so that an "apples and apples comparison" is possible.
 
You may wish to configure a Contest which encourages the Entrants to focus on a problem area of interest to you. This can be a very cost effective way to get a lot of good basic stove research done.
 
At any rate, I am sure a lot of us are building, or would like to build "fun stoves", and the various types of contests available would serve to focus our efforts in a particular direction. Finally, the Contest could provide a forum for the dissemination of cleverness in stove design and construction.
 
This could be a very fun thing, and these various contests could lead to some very practical fallout in the wonderful world of stoves.
 
Kindest regards,
 
Kevin Chisholm