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Stoves Archive for January 2002
240 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:31:22 2002

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Re: "Worlds Fastest Stove" Contest Was: Re: LETS ADOPT A UNIVERSAL POT



Dear Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Larson
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: "Worlds Fastest Stove" Contest Was: Re: LETS ADOPT A UNIVERSAL POT

Kevin:
 
    Thanks for having given so much thought to this contest topic.
 
    1.  Your choice of using a standard Juice can is brilliant.  I will go today to see if I can buy juice in such a can (or "bum" from a restaurant) - and hope others will report in on whether this can is locally available (or a different preferred size and shape that may better fit their stove).
 
Thanks. <blush> :-) Actually, it should be practical and work quite well when the pot is in direct contact with the products of combustion. However, it is perhaps not appropriate for use on a flat stove top, as someone pointed out, because of the ridge on the bottom..
 
    2.  I think one problem will be your item 7: "The can shall have a snug fitting cover with a 10 mm hole in the top center, and a 2 mm hole to act as an air vent, 25mm away from the center of the cover."
 
Actually, this can be done simply by using aluminum foil, bent over the top of the can, and held in place a few turns of stovepipe wire. This should be plenty good for initial tests.
 
    This will be tough for many contestants, - and we will find many ill-fitting caps, I am afraid.  But, we might all be able to punch two small top holes in a standard can and still get the juice out cleanly - and still use the US penny as a standard "pressure valve".   Do you think this modification of your proposed rule will work  (this being your $100)?.
 
This would certainly work. I was sure that when the Entrants saw all the steam leaking away from their ill fitting covers, they would quickly come to this same conclusion.
 
    3.  I presume there will have to be some rule about plugging the second hole?  Or two pennies?
 
The small hole was intended as an air vent, to leak out the air from the head space as it warmed, without disturbing the penny. Additionally, the small hole ensures that actual steam is being made and being vented at a particular rate, before the penny will move.
 
Many helpful comments have been made relating to a Stove Contest". I am working on distilling them into a set of contest guidelines, and hope to post something in the next few days to address their valid comments.
 
Bear in mind that this is intended to be a "fun thing", rather than a test protocol for comparing "real world stove systems." The hope would be that by focusing the creative efforts of Stovers on one of the many facets of Stoves, significant advances to practical stoves could follow.
 
Kindest regards,
 
Kevin Chisholm