REPP logo banner adsolstice ad
site map
Google Search REPP WWW register comment
home
repp
energy and environment
discussion groups
calendar
gem
about us
employment
 
REPP-CREST
1612 K Street, NW
Suite 202
Washington, DC 20006
contact us
discussion groups
efficiencyefficiency hydrogenhydrogen solarsolar windwind geothermalgeothermal bioenergybioenergy hydrohydro policypolicy
Stoves Archive for January 2002
240 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:31:22 2002

[Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: flash carbonization of biomass



At 11:18 AM 1/7/02 -0500, Reedtb2@cs.com wrote:
Dear Ron and Andrew:
(snip)

Note:  This refers to the primary combustion of the fuel in the IDD "gasifier" stove. 

AND note to Ron and Tom:  Ron prefers the word "pyrolyzer" ("PIE-row-lie-zer", right?) instead of "gasifier".  I have trouble distinguishing between the two terms.  And the word "gasify" seems more clear to me to be what is the end result, which is the creation of gases from biomass that is converted into charcoal.  Comments please FOR THE LAYMAN usage that will help get usage of whatever it is that we call it.

And below is my real question:

Tom Reed wrote:    However, in order to move DOWN to the next layer  [in the pyrolisizer, the low flame ] needs to ignite [the next lower material] and if it is wet it needs additional heat to move down.  Therefore, the wetter the fuel the more charcoal is also burned.  With bone dry wood we get 25% charcoal yield;  with 30% moisture we get 5% charcoal yield.  But the gases for cooking burn remarkably similarly across this range.  
Tom,  I read this to mean that "greener or wetter or lesser quality" fuels will yield the desired gases are about the same, and the only loss is in the reduced yield of charcoal.  (And some people are not interested in the charcoal anyway if we get good heat from the pyrolysis/gasification  process.

In other words, IF the user is stuck with using wet or higher moisture fuel, then "no big problem" with the pyrolysis/gasification process, assuming acceptance that less charcoal is produced.

OR:  Do NOT make a fire for the purpose of drying the damp fuel for later burning (in a gasifier stove), because the only gain would be a bigger pile of charcoal.

I would think that this is rather important (?).

Paul

TOM REED                           BEF STOVEWORKS

Paul S. Anderson, Ph.D.,  Fulbright Prof. to Mozambique 8/99 - 7/00
Dept of Geography - Geology (Box 4400), Illinois State University
Normal, IL  61790-4400   Voice:  309-438-7360;  FAX:  309-438-5310
E-mail: psanders@ilstu.edu - Internet items: www.ilstu.edu/~psanders