Re: flash carbonization, Patents??

[Carefreeland@aol.com]

 Dear Michael,
    I have been impressed with your dedication to the almost lost art of 
charcoal making, and hope your breakthroughs help change the face of biomass 
energy. 
     I started looking into charcoal making again maybe 9 years ago for the 
purpose of cleanly heating my solar thermal greenhouse when the sun didn't 
shine. This was in my larger scheme of a completely solar operated, 
integrated, greenhouse/industrial complex, fit for interplanetary space 
travel.  
     My experience with charcoal making goes back to my childhood experiments 
(from about 10 years old to 15) with developing the ultimate black powders 
for pyrotechnics and rocketry. 
     I worked with all of the charcoal making processes spoken of today. I 
did it to optimize the force of the rocket and mortar propellants, and 
explosives, fine tune colors, temperatures, and burning rates. I did document 
some of this, but didn't know a lot of chemistry then.  I knew what worked 
best, like closed pressurized retorts. (ever burn dinner in a pressure 
cooker?)  Hey, I was just a kid. 
     I did thousands of burning trials in the basement and backyard, while my 
friends played baseball.
     I still don't know if the commercial black powder users make powder the 
way I came up with.  I hear they still grind the ingredients together,(ouch!) 
so my process must be safer. Maybe I should have patented it.  I had no way 
of knowing what "they" were doing, good thing. 
     I don't study black powders anymore because today the government would 
think I was a terrorist instead of a rocket propellant man.  (might be a 
better living, at least you have a chance to die quickly instead of starving 
to death for 20 years)  
    In this country, they trash the smartest people before even asking what 
they might know.  Unless of course, we follow their rules and work under 
them.  I don't see how anybody can get anything done that way.  How can one 
work under rules while still writing them? 
    I agree with your proposition that only by refining biomass to consistent 
products can we make practical inroads against fossil fuels. 
    I am somewhat concerned at my own position with charcoal making devises.  
I too am building a low pressurized,(under 100psi) fast working retort 
system, and had hoped I wouldn't need to patent it just to use, make & sell 
it.  Without yet being able to look at your patent (I am just an amateur on 
the computer) I don't know if we are working on the same type of process.  
    I just assumed that all charcoal processes were non-patentable because 
nature makes charcoal in natural forest fires, volcanic lava flows, 
sedimentary rock coal and so on. Don't tell me volcanic tubes aren't 
pressurized when a hundred thousand tons of magma pours down them. Talk about 
your "flash carbonization". 
    It sounds like your system is much more complicated than mine, I hope 
your patent is in the fine details of doing it.  The principals sound 
somewhat the same.  I was hoping to run my plans (which like Tom Reed's turbo 
stove, use common materials) out on the web to produce a good biomass product 
for everymans production and use. Then I had planned on only patenting 
devises to combust it efficiently, with a shotgun focus on several industrial 
processes such as metallurgy. 
    My concern is that your patent would cover my processes, attempting to 
prevent my, or anymans use of pressureized retorts.  This would lead to BIG 
problems.  So I need to know if I have to start patenting every sneeze in 
case someone makes money on it. 
    I agree that the future is in refined biomass.  "I have long believed 
that only with a process that optimizes a balance of ALL potential byproducts 
with the turn of a control, as an oil refinery does today, that we can then 
say this is the finished process."  I'd hate to see someone lock that whole 
process up with a patent.  The world needs it too badly.  Unfortunately they 
probably will, so I said this here first. 
    I wish there was a "stoves list" 27 years ago when I first visualized a 
biomass based energy scheme from earth to air and back.  (did they have the 
word biomass then)? This included everything I work on today, from breeding 
and growing biobased solar energy collectors (soil/water/ air chemistry 
first) to recycling the final material byproducts and water back to the 
plants. 
     This scheme includes many solid, liquid, and gas byproducts, just like 
mother earth herself makes, only without the wait.  All uses for energy and 
organic material byproducts included. 
    I have been struggling to work on this for a "lifestyle" while everybody 
else is just now being paid to figure it out in a lab. I have run my business 
in a landfill for 21 years to do this.  If there had been a stoves list 27 
years ago, and I could have recorded my crazy schemes, then I could have 
filed just one patent on the whole thing. ;-)   
    Somedays I just HATE the patent system, because it only helps those who 
have enough time to research them, and money to pay lawyers to defend them.  
That leaves us poor folks who are too busy inventing, to use fists, clubs, 
and knives, or whatever means we find.  Maybe we should just ignore the 
system and maybe it will go away. They can't sue you for money you don't 
have, or stop you from teaching people to live better. ;-) 
     There are always my witnesses, many of them worked for me back then, and 
some knew me even earlier, I still consider them all friends. 
    Hope we can work together on this, 
                                             Daniel Dimiduk 
                             Shangri-La Research and Development Co. 
                                           Dayton, Ohio, USA   
    
    

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