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| Stoves Archive for January 2002 |
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| 240 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:31:21 2002 |
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Practical stoves "contest"
Stovers and other friends,
Several messages have gone around about the "fastest boil" stove contest
that Kevin is graciously offering to sponsor or conduct or coordinate or
facilitate (I am not trying to define what he will be doing.)
Other messages (such as Crispin's and mine) have sought a more "practical
stove" focus, to which Kevin has responded with encouragement that Crispin
or I or another person(s) should sponsor / organize such a contest for a
practical stove.
In several ways I consider that the entire history of the Stoves list serve
has been directed toward the "practical stove for people in developing
areas". And maybe no contest is needed.
On the other hand, perhaps we should have a "practical stoves" contest, and
I hereby offer to be ONE of the possible coordinators.
What I envision is the EARLY stage of a contest to just get some progress
noted, and to get some order to the contest and candidates.
In principle, I like Crispin's categories of reds and blues and times. but
I think we need to go further to help create meaningful categories.
As I have written before, I think that the "combustion chamber" action is
(or can usually be) quite separate from the cooking area. For example,
Crispin's "basket grate" combustion chamber can be:
A. in a free-standing can-type container or
B. attached to a cooking unit that has a metal plancha-type hot metal
cooking surface PLUS an oven, and with a chimney.
I am NOT offering prize money, and I am NOT setting this up for ME to head
it. I have NO conditions to be a judge/evaluator.
Instead, with others I will help develop a set of criteria, including costs
and materials, and fuels and mobility and control-ability and several
amount(s) of heat in several time constraints, and with practical results
among the key criteria, including the different styles of cooking needed.
And when we eventually have 2 or 5 or 10 stoves that seem to be in about
the same category (or categories, as determined by the makers), we could
have them assembled at a location to have an independent panel of
evaluators. But until then, the candidates will only need to be in the
ballpark of category X or Y or Z or .....
Just think of the number of "camp stoves" that recreational campers
use. Here portability and cost and fuel are major factors.
But in a refugee camp (not permanent residence) the characteristics of an
appropriate stove are different from those for an adobe hut that is
occupied by successive generations.
I think that INDIVIDUALS or small groups could define their target stove
type(s) and encourage others to make "entries" to meet the
criteria. There do not need to be "first prize" etc, but rather "meets
the criteria at the gold, silver or bronze levels". So there could be
several at the gold level. And ONE stove might be silver for type R, and
bronze for types S and T, but not meet the standards for types U, and V.
I think my comments come in part from hearing about so many stoves but
hardly understanding how and where each is able to be used. For example, I
SUSPECT that Crispin's Basinthutu stove and Aprovecho's Rocket stove (and
my Juntos stove WHEN I actually have a reasonably defined stove) are aimed
at similar user-conditions. And what about the Volcano stove and the
Wings Kayak stove and so many more.
Another category involves the "fixed-position" brick and mud (and other
materials?) stoves (with or without chimney?),
And the charcoal-burner stoves
and the camper stoves
etc, etc.
So, please consider this as an "idea message" for discussion. I will
participate in my very limited way. But I hope that others will step
forward to cover different aspects.
Finally, so far, Kevin is far ahead in the definition of his field of the
contest, that is, the "fastest boil" contest. I look forward to progress
reports in that area.
Paul
Paul S. Anderson, Ph.D., Fulbright Prof. to Mozambique 8/99 - 7/00
Dept of Geography - Geology (Box 4400), Illinois State University
Normal, IL 61790-4400 Voice: 309-438-7360; FAX: 309-438-5310
E-mail: psanders@ilstu.edu - Internet items: www.ilstu.edu/~psanders
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