Roger: I agree with your responses on air control - but think that users might find enough extra value in primary air control that it was a desirable "add-on extra". All a question of the benefit cost ratio. In our work on pyrolysis, top-lit, charcoal-making stoves, I find it extremely valuable. You also said yesterday: <snip> > > The biggest barrier to our program now is that our stove is still too > expensive for many impoverished rural Filipino's to buy in the Western > Visaya's. We are now working to make it smaller and cheaper to make it > more accessible. It is already considered a technological leap forward > by the peasants we are working to assist. > I wonder if you have tried this design using several pottery pieces? A refractory and insulator - and potentially quite cheap (but breakable). Your pot holder - stand design is probably going to have to remain steel. Ron - Stoves List Archives and Website: http://www.crest.org/discussion/stoves/200202/ http://crest.org/discussiongroups/resources/stoves/ (Under construction) http://www.ikweb.com/enuff/public_html/Stoves.html (Original) Stoves List Moderators: Ron Larson, ronallarson@qwest.net Alex English, english@adan.kingston.net Elsen L. Karstad, elk@wananchi.com www.chardust.com List-Post: <mailto:stoves@crest.org> List-Help: <mailto:stoves-help@crest.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:stoves-unsubscribe@crest.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:stoves-subscribe@crest.org> Sponsor the Stoves List: http://www.crest.org/discuss3.html - Other Biomass Stoves Events and Information: http://www.bioenergy2002.org http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1010424940_7.html Bioenergy http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975339_7.html Gasification http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975672_7.html Carbon For information about CHAMBERS STOVES http://www.ikweb.com/enuff/public_html/Chamber.htm