Dear Tom, I envy your world view. Mine runs more along the lines of "PERDAT ILLE QUI TANGAT". In my scandalized view all too often doing well uses up resources, creates long lasting poisons, oppresses the poor. I hope that your scheme is correct. Walking through the world frequently leaves me with a different, much less appetizing expression: "He ruins what he touches" Best, Dean Tom wrote: The phrase, doing well by doing good, seems to me to embody the essence of the capitalist system. It is difficult in our society to "do well" without (often accidentally) doing some good. (Exceptions are drug dealers, ... fill in your favorite blanks). - Stoves List Archives and Website: http://www.crest.org/discussion/stoves/200202/ http://crest.org/discussiongroups/resources/stoves/ (Under construction) http://www.ikweb.com/enuff/public_html/Stoves.html (Original) Stoves List Moderators: Ron Larson, ronallarson@qwest.net Alex English, english@adan.kingston.net Elsen L. Karstad, elk@wananchi.com www.chardust.com List-Post: <mailto:stoves@crest.org> List-Help: <mailto:stoves-help@crest.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:stoves-unsubscribe@crest.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:stoves-subscribe@crest.org> Sponsor the Stoves List: http://www.crest.org/discuss3.html - Other Biomass Stoves Events and Information: http://www.bioenergy2002.org http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1010424940_7.html Bioenergy http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975339_7.html Gasification http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975672_7.html Carbon For information about CHAMBERS STOVES http://www.ikweb.com/enuff/public_html/Chamber.htm