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Stoves Archive for May 2002
102 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:31:37 2002

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Re: Temperature dilution




>On Thu, 23 May 2002 10:58:12 -0500, "Paul S. Anderson"
><psanders@ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> >2.  If the increase in available energy (because of using HOT air) exceeds
> >the energy requirement to blow the hot air, then the net gain is to be 
> desired.

In reply, At 10:30 PM 5/24/02 +0100, AJH wrote:
>Too simplistic, you must build in a factor for the "utility" of the
>energy, a sort of heat opportunity cost. Electric energy for fans has
>a far higher opportunity cost than heat for cooking.
>
>AJH

Paul replies:  I think I understand that and agree in the general 
case.  But the electric energy to operate a very small (perhaps 12 volt DC) 
fan is SO SMALL, and in comparison, the heat energy from the burning of the 
biomass is SO GREAT.

My original statement or implied question (above) is related to the GREAT 
difference between the tiny bit of energy needed to do the blowing and the 
(we hope) increase in energy from better burning of the biomass.

An extreme case would be to have a US$ 2 small fan with many months or 
years of useful life and a 12-volt battery that is occasionally recharged, 
which together make it possible to burn (in a gasifier or in some other 
stove) some form of biomass that is otherwise literally waste product to be 
thrown away.  The heat is from the biomass.  We are just trying to make it 
possible to burn the biomass by providing a small fan.

Please note that my initial comment (at start of this message) was about 
getting HOT air to be available via fans.  But now the discussion by Andrew 
and by me seems to be more "generic" about fans and their "opportunity 
costs."  I am interested in BOTH:

1.  fans per se, and
2,  the value of getting hot air into the combustion chamber.

Did this make more sense?  I could easily be missing something.

Paul
Paul S. Anderson, Ph.D.,  Fulbright Prof. to Mozambique 8/99 - 7/00
Rotary University Teacher Grantee to Mozambique >10 mo of 2001-2003
Dept of Geography - Geology (Box 4400), Illinois State University
Normal, IL  61790-4400   Voice:  309-438-7360;  FAX:  309-438-5310
E-mail: psanders@ilstu.edu - Internet items: www.ilstu.edu/~psanders


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