Tom; When someone answers scientific studies with drivel, why bother answering? Most intelligent people will try to counter argue with other studies, at least. I guess the only answer I could give to that last post from Dimiduk is: Beam me up, Scottie! The loony-tunes are pretty thick down here. Fact is, Dimiduk is a licensed pesticide applicator. He makes his living running the local equivalent of Chemlawn. I haven't the slightest clue what his interest is on the stoves list, outside of some really far stretch of the imagination relating to making charcoal or running a forge, but an environmentalist he is not. Nor can I see any possiblity of anyone who proposes that people in the Third World start using dangerous chemicals to harvest biomass which they will then burn in unvented stoves in their homes having even the slightest interest in their health and welfare. Let's see: They buy expensive chemicals (with money they don't have -- oh, right, maybe the World Bank will lend it to them, turning them into indentured servants, perhaps to repay the debt) to replace the hand labor (which they have an excess of) so that they can not only pollute themselves and their children, not to mention neighbors and Mother Earth, not just with the CO and tars they traditionally breathe, but now also with dioxin and godess knows what other chemical cocktails result in burning herbicides. Fantastic! Terrific logic, eh? I might walk out of my house and get run over by a car, so what the hell, I might as well smoke a stogie and glut myself on meat and booze first, life is risky and we'll die anyway, so who cares. I guess I'll listen to the well-educated scientists who did the studies warning us of the dangers. On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 05:17:26PM -0600, Tom Reed wrote: > Dear Dan: > > Well said and I'm looking forward to Harmon's answer. > > TOM REED > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Carefreeland@aol.com> > To: <stoves@crest.org> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:39 AM > Subject: Fwd: FYI: Roundup (and risks) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > - > > Stoves List Archives and Website: > > http://www.crest.org/discussion/stoves/200204/ > > http://crest.org/discussiongroups/resources/stoves/ > > > > > Stoves List Moderators: > > Ron Larson, ronallarson@qwest.net > > Elsen L. Karstad, elk@wananchi.com www.chardust.com > > > > > List-Post: <mailto:stoves@crest.org> > > List-Help: <mailto:stoves-help@crest.org> > > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:stoves-unsubscribe@crest.org> > > List-Subscribe: <mailto:stoves-subscribe@crest.org> > > > > > Sponsor the Stoves List: http://www.crest.org/discuss3.html > > - > > Other Biomass Stoves Events and Information: > > http://www.bioenergy2002.org > > http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1010424940_7.html Bioenergy > > http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975339_7.html Gasification > > http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975672_7.html Carbon > > > > > For information about CHAMBERS STOVES > > > >http://www.repp.org/discussiongroups/resources/stoves/Chambers/Chambers.htm > > > > - > Gasification List Archives: > http://www.crest.org/discussion/gasification/200202/ > > Gasification List Moderator: > Tom Reed, Biomass Energy Foundation, Reedtb2@cs.com > www.webpan.com/BEF > List-Post: <mailto:gasification@crest.org> > List-Help: <mailto:gasification-help@crest.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gasification-unsubscribe@crest.org> > List-Subscribe: <mailto:gasification-subscribe@crest.org> > > Sponsor the Gasification List: http://www.crest.org/discuss3.html > - > Other Gasification Events and Information: > http://www.bioenergy2002.org > http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1010424940_7.html Bioenergy > http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975339_7.html Gasification > http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975672_7.html Carbon -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com - Gasification List Archives: http://www.crest.org/discussion/gasification/200202/ Gasification List Moderator: Tom Reed, Biomass Energy Foundation, Reedtb2@cs.com www.webpan.com/BEF List-Post: <mailto:gasification@crest.org> List-Help: <mailto:gasification-help@crest.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gasification-unsubscribe@crest.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gasification-subscribe@crest.org> Sponsor the Gasification List: http://www.crest.org/discuss3.html - Other Gasification Events and Information: http://www.bioenergy2002.org http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1010424940_7.html Bioenergy http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975339_7.html Gasification http://www.crest.org/articles/static/1/1011975672_7.html Carbon