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| Stoves Archive for August 2002 |
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| 145 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:31:45 2002 |
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Re: GAS-L: A plague of criticism, any solutions?
Dear Daniel,
Thanks for the early morning support. It is after 4am here.
None of the biomass projects which I have seen in large scale are
economically successful for two major reasons, cost of the fuel, (always
positive) increasing with transportation distance, and power value. A recent
presentation in Albuquerque by the McNeal Station manager showed that the
value of electricity which they received from the grid was so low that the
plant was only used for peaking. It was started and stopped several hundred
times a month, whenever the power value exceeded the cost of operation. The
cost of harvesting and transporting biomass was a the major factor in these
economics.
The Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management have massive problems
with the harvested biomass from forest thinnings. There is an initiative to
address the forest management by the Bush administration because of the
recent uncontrollable fires which devastated massive areas of the Southwest
and are now taking the toll on Oregon. The limited factor is the cost of
disposal of millions of tons of biomass throughout widespread areas of the
forested regions of the country. Gasifying it for power production does not
work due to energy values and lack of remote connections for power transport.
Other solutions are needed. It appears as though Thermogenics can play a
major role in this program.
If the density of biomass production was increased per unit area, then
the transportation cost would decline and economics would improve, but there
would still be harvesting cost and the like which would not change much. If
genetics or fertility could change this a great deal, it would still not make
much change in the economics. These economics of harvest and transport is the
limiting factor in biomass utilization.
If islands or areas where fuels are very expensive such as the outbacks
and remote locations are used, that is a much better deal and possibly
feasible for biomasses. European subsidies can assist there.
I cannot respond to the stoves and bioenergy lists as I am not subscribed
to them.
Leland T. Taylor
President
Thermogenics Inc.
7100-F 2nd St. NW Albuquerque, New Mexico USA 87107 Phone: 505-761-5633, fax:
341-0424, website: thermogenics.com.
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