RE: Gel Fuel

["Edward Woolsey" <woolsey@netins.net>]

High Stovers:

A couple of comments:   1) Food vs. Fuel ....The worlds population tends to
be short on protein, not starch ...converting starch to ethanol tends to
concentrate the protein 3 fold, hopefully making it easier to move our
Midwest corn production from the red meat industry into the export human
food market.
2) We in the Midwest have the saying ...."Drink the best ..Drive the rest".
:)

Ed  Woolsey
Iowa


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Peter Singfield [mailto:snkm@btl.net]
Sent:	Friday, September 13, 2002 9:22 PM
To:	stoves@crest.org
Subject:	RE: Gel Fuel


>3% alcohol solution - it's called beer.

In the US -- here it is 6.5%

Actually -- "beer" is the perfect food for humans -- ask the ancient
Egyptians!

It fueled them for many of thousands of years -- at 3% and "less" alcohol.

But not mass produced -- chemically "encouraged" beer -- fresh -- natural
brewed -- beer!

It was also the perfect food for many Europeans --

Which then brings us to wine.

Consumed mostly in ancient times -- diluted to 3% or less -- and was drank
as water -- that is to keep fluid levels in the proper range.

when "thirsty" -- drink "diluted" wine -- not water.

When a special occasion comes along -- they drank the wine "pure" and
became inebriated as a result.

Again -- natural wines --

A great natural wine can be made from simply boiling chopped up sugar cane
plant and then letting the liquor so produced ferment.

Called by the ancients around here (Maya) "Balche" --

It self ferments when cooled -- and is a very rich food supplement --
though again -- should be diluted to 3% or less.

So yes -- ethanol is rather the perfect "fuel" -- for engine and human!

I raise pigs and chickens/eggs for the house table here -- the expended
mash will be used for their feed.

Waste not -- want not -- and all of that.

Peter / Belize

At 09:12 AM 9/13/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>
>	> -----Original Message-----
>	> From: Peter Singfield [mailto:snkm@btl.net]
>	> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 7:58 PM
>	> Subject: Re: Gel Fuel
>	>
>	>
>	>
>	> By the way folks -- if memory serves me right -- 3% alcohol solution
>	> (water) is one of the perfect fuels for the human body. And was applied
>	> intravenously in this manner -- along with lipids -- protein -- etc --
to
>	> sustain life in the seriously invalid.
>	>
>
>3% alcohol solution - it's called beer.  My students certainly subscribe to
>the belief that it is the perfect fuel and that little else is needed to
>sustain life. I'm not sure that they use it intravenously, but I'm sure
>they'd try it if I suggest.
>
>
> - Bryan Willson
>
> Dr. Bryan Willson
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> Department of Mechanical Engineering
> Colorado State University
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